Of course I'm biased here but it would be more productive to include
Groovy in the shootout as well.

Sadly both ScalaSwing and JavaFX swing require a lot of effort from
the framework perspective, as it currently stands JavaFX Swing needs a
wrapper for every single Swing component (imagine making a wrapper for
each SwingX, Jide, Flamingo, Kiwi, [the list goes on and on]
component). Something similar happens with ScalaSwing, where its
builder-like structure requires a factory per component. That is not
the case in Groovy thanks in part to its meta-programming facilities.

For more information on Groovy + Swing go to

http://groovy.codehaus.org/Swing+Builder
http://groovy.codehaus.org/SwingXBuilder
http://groovy.codehaus.org/JideBuilder
http://groovy.codehaus.org/GraphicsBuilder
http://griffon.codehaus.org

Cheers,
Andres

On Oct 30, 6:13 am, "Viktor Klang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Would be lovely with a JavaFX Swing vs. ScalaSwing shootout when they are
> both ready.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 2:08 PM, Joshua Marinacci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Swing is not going away. We are putting considerable resources behind
> > beefing up our client java strategy, both in Swing and JavaFX. They
> > both depend on the underlying JRE and Java2D infrastructure, which has
> > been receiving a lot of attention lately (in JavaSE 6 update 10 and
> > future JRE releases).
>
> > There will even be an example in the SDK that shows you how to mix
> > Swing with JavaFX.  Tons of fun stuff coming!
>
> >        J
>
> > On Oct 30, 2008, at 4:58 AM, carljmosca wrote:
>
> > > We're using NetBeans and the SwingX components for our Swing apps.
> > > Ever since JavaOne ended we've been speculating about what our Swing
> > > apps might look like by the next JavaOne and what the development
> > > experience might be like (relative to JavaFX).
>
> > > A slowdown of activity over at SwingLabs and a current thread on the
> > > SwingLabs has left us a bit more puzzled.
>
> > > Can anyone here comment on what Sun's plans might be (to the extent
> > > they are allowed and comfortable)?  Specifically, has the funding
> > > permanently gone away?  Does JavaJX make it unnecessary?
>
> > > In addition I wonder if someone closer to this process might be a good
> > > Java Posse guest.
>
> > > As always, thank you Posse for some great work and thanks to the
> > > listeners who make this an interesting group.
>
> > > Cheers,
> > > Carl
>
> --
> Viktor Klang
> Senior Systems Analyst
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