>
> If you do have a way to unify getters/setters into a property without
> having to try and discover them I'd be interested to see.
>   
First, I don't necessarily want to expose get/set methods. Second I 
don't necessarily want clients to discover them. That said, Swing is at 
the edge of the system as is JPA, distributed system calls. As I 
mentioned, things at the edge of a system need to have access to 
internal state and representation. That said you still need to be 
careful not to invert your lines of dependency. Using set/get or even 
properties for that matter is a great way to invert lines of dependency. 
Better to use a system of double dispatch such as is used with 
serialization.

IMHO, events and listeners should have been baked into the class 
hierarchy as they are in Smalltalk. This simplifies things enormously.

Regards,
Kirk


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