What if... -Adobe and Microsoft have missed a trick, by jumping directly to an extensible rich client *that is not html*.
Shouldn't someone, with a platform capable of doing so (ie Java) do an HTML based rich client?? Why not do for real, what GWT only pretends to do. -and hasn't a similar trick worked brilliantly for java once before... Precedent: Smalltalk was just too big a leap for C programmers. Java neatly filled that hole. It wasn't C, but it looked like C and it provided the glide path from C to the modern world. XAML and Flex (and javaFX) are not HTML -and they therefore require everyone to dump all their experience, and infrastructure based around HTML. *IF* the JRE included an HTML browser, Java developers could move smoothly from server+ajax, to server+java_client It could be like the Java wave of the 90's all over again [man]... Adobe and Microsoft would hate it and groan about how backward it was, like Smalltalkers hated java for its pragmatic co-opting of their dream. Die-hard Ajaxians would hate it, and grumble about speed -like die- hard C programmers hated Java for solving in one hit, a bunch of problems they made their livings trying to solve Java programmers would be laughing, as they... a)Wrote RIA's in java whilst leveraging the ALL THOSE HTML web frameworks, and ALL THOSE HTML web designers, -while adobe and microsoft tried to force change b)Did what GWT only pretends to do (but still using GWT for when there is no java client -see what i mean about the html technology re- use?) c) Drove right around all that cross browser nonsense d) Extended the damm browser natively (ah, at last!) e) Optimised their existing ajax javascript by moving the hot spots to Java f) Watched java client adoption climb, as java became THE way to normalize IE without replacing it g) Avoided having to make a premature "flash or javaFX" decision -and rolled javaFX seamlessly into html for a while until it suited them to drop the html I have heard somewhere of Adobe eyeing webkit (!!!) Danger Wil Robinson Danger! Java won once, with a straight down the middle play -can it win again? Dust off that HotJava browser Sun. Comments? Vote for this question, on the moderator thing, if you would like to hear the Posse discuss it Pete F -or did i simply miss a meeting? --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
