Yes, but the impression I get from reading Richard Blair's response is
that Swing will have maintenance work done, otherwise it will be
JavaFX.    If all they are doing is maintenance work, then I don't see
Swing moving forward.   And if it doesn't move forward, it's dead.

JavaFX is of no interest to me.   If I were to do something like
JavaFX, I'd use Groovy's swing builder because it does pretty much
what JavaFX does, but in a language that is really good and in which I
can do lots of other things and not be limited to JavaFX.

I think that JavaFX is a big, stupid case of NIH.   Plus a desire for
control that only dooms them.

On Nov 9, 8:13 am, robeden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> To be clear: they're not dropping Swing or JSR 296 (the app
> framework)... just SwingX.
>
> Rob
>
> On Nov 8, 3:21 am, "Alexis Moussine-Pouchkine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > The original "news" is about SwingX, not Swing.
>
> > How could one think Sun would do this given the work that went in 6u10
> > (including Nimbus), the Swing/JavaFX integration and the
> > NetBeans/VisualVM, etc... investment? Swing is just everywhere in
> > corporate custom applications and I just don't see Sun dropping such
> > core customers altogether. Having said this, JavaFX is indeed THE
> > current focus of the software client group and Sun's resources aren't
> > infinite AFAIK.
>
> > -Alexis
>
> > On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 11:34 PM, robeden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Hey guys -
>
> > > I'm sure through Dick's wandering through the world of Java posts
> > > you've probably seen Kirill Grouchnikov's blog post about the demise
> > > of the SwingX project's funding (http://weblogs.java.net/blog/
> > > kirillcool/archive/2008/11/sun_setting_dow.html). There's a lot of
> > > interesting discussion going on in the SwingX forums about the
> > > decision:
> > >  http://forums.java.net/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=52945&tstart=0
> > >  http://forums.java.net/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=52665&tstart=0
>
> > > Basically it boils down to Sun throwing everything (from a desktop
> > > Java perspective) into JavaFX.
>
> > > Here's another interesting blog post about a developer moving to
> > > flash:http://blog.sharendipity.com/were-moving-to-flash-heres-why
>
> > > Personally, I tend to agree that this is a really bad decision.
> > > Desktop Java is in trouble and killing SwingX doesn't help. Hopefully
> > > JavaFX will be the greatest thing since sliced bread as Sun claims it
> > > is.
>
> > > Thanks for the show. I love the discussion!
>
> > > Rob Eden

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