And you can push the analogy with library and modules <=> eclipse
plugins/distribution (poor RAD).
For me the most important part for the future is a modular JDK/JRE.
Sun needs to set free a "Java micro-kernel" foundation and they may keep the
juicy JEE and JavaFX add-ons.
The "Java mocro-kernel" will be the JVM and the language without much of the
JDK libraries. Basically, all JSR-277 (or OSGi :) modules of the JDK itself
that can be removed should be.
Then no more real need for forking the OpenJDK on a SwingX issue...

BTW: I suspect SUN to have this vision in mind when they keep postponing the
Java 7 JSR?

Hope it will come one day!

On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 11:07 AM, Neil Bartlett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

>
> I very much like Carl's prescription for fixing the mess that Java is
> in, i.e. handing it over to an independent foundation.
>
> Now here's a thought experiment. Perform a search/replace on what Carl
> said, replacing Sun with IBM and replacing Java with Eclipse. The
> result describes almost exactly what actually happened in 2003-04! IBM
> set Eclipse free, and as a result its popularity and importance grew
> far faster than would have been the case if they had insisted on a
> "first amongst equals" position. Ultimately this benefited IBM just as
> much as it benefited the rest of the Eclipse community.
>
> Of course in an independent Java Foundation, Sun would still be the
> biggest contributor and thus a very important voice, as IBM is in the
> Eclipse Foundation.
> >
>


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