Indeed. Barely related, but I have been meaning to post: the current state of the scala tools is really quite good.
I looked at IntelliJ 8 with the scala plug in - amazing. You can even mix java and scala source, and the maven plug in support is phenominal as well. So the path is open to do incremental porting of an app from java to scala. You can even run the regular unit tests you have from IntelliJ (that got me very excited - being able to keep runing unit tests as you port is awesome). I see no reason scala could not be used if nothing else, as a much much better java, in the same situations. I don't buy the whole "dumbing down cause all the people I work with are idiots" implication in that a language is too complex. You don't have to be too clever if you don't want to or don't need to. A lot of the baroque patterns that are used in java apps to work around things (and heavy use of external config languages and XML) could be replaced if you use something like scala, if you want. On Dec 15, 9:28 pm, "Viktor Klang" <[email protected]> wrote: > Jonas also happens to be a really great guy. > > But back on topic, > > I think it's fairly wrong approach to apply the same solution to two totally > different languages. > The questions we've got to ask ourselves are: > > 1) What purpose did the JEE containers serve for Java? > 2) What purposes needs to be served for Scala? > > Because I _know_ that alot of frameworks and patterns in Java only exist > because of fallacies in the Java language itself. > > Cheers, > Viktor > > On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Frederic Simon > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > In the latest Java Posse Round Up their was a session about how to > > make scala catch up with JEE. The need for DI, AOP and so on. > > Basically what's needed to have a clean container API in Scala. > > > Just found out that Jonas Boner just did it :) > > First the DI: > >http://tinyurl.com/6jvxzh > > Then the AOP: > >http://tinyurl.com/6saxv4 > > > Did not read it all but looks great. > > -- > Viktor Klang > Senior Systems Analyst --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
