Hello James,

Thank you for the leads. It more or less confirms my intention to have a
workshop about building gui's and communicating with backend systems. I'm
adding a JavaFX language section as my audience is not supposed to know it.
Anyway, JavaFX should allow us to have a funny workshop. I just proposed a
possible content to the management. Let's see what happens next.

I had a look to the available documentation - the tutorial posted in this
group is excellent btw - and it strikes me JavaFX is not only the neat
graphics - there's actually data binding, closures and multiple inheritance
in there ! They bought me! ;-)

Aaaahh, standards, patterns, rules, ... :-) I think that for GUI this will
prove difficult. It's quite a matter of personal taste really. Or is it ?
Maybe I'm working for the 'dull' branch in the business, but I actually
never had a customer telling me what his application should look like. Or
even disapproving a prototype's look&feel. And frankly, if I come with an
animated application - I would love that - I expect from many of them a
question about how much time I actually 'wasted' doing this. :-)

Thanks again,

Jan



On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 12:13 AM, James Weaver <[email protected]>wrote:

> Jan,
>
> Based upon your talents and experience, I would suggest that part of your
> course answers the question: "Can I write a graphically-rich client side of
> an enterprise application in JavaFX"?  The current picture I have in my mind
> of such a UI is "A WPF Exemplar" that Kirill Grouchnikov of
> http://www.pushing-pixels.org pointed me to, located at:
>
> http://community.infragistics.com/exemplars/tangerine.aspx
>
> I've attached three screenshots of the UI to this message.  JavaFX can
> enable this kind of UI very easily and well because of its
> graphical-node-centric approach (UI elements are SceneGraph nodes).  This
> "Tangerine" demo, for example, enables the user to view and select books
> (using Amazon web services) in a UI that moves and scales pictures of the
> books in a large circle.
>
> On a related note, I think that we as software developers/graphic designers
> should define a set of style guidelines for Enterprise RIAs (analogous to
> the Web 2.0 guidelines that have evolved).  Please feel free to read and
> respond to the following article that I posted on JavaLobby a few days ago,
> on December 23, 2008:
>
> http://java.dzone.com/articles/should-there-be-enterprise-ria
>
> At the end of that post, you'll notice a link to a two-day JavaFX course
> that I'll be teaching in Stockholm at the end of January.  If you visit the
> link, you'll see the course outline from which I invite you to glean ideas.
>
> Thanks,
> Jim Weaver
> http://JavaFXpert.com (blog)
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 3:21 PM, Jan Goyvaerts <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>>
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> I've been asked at work to prepare a three-day JavaFX course. My
>> experience with JavaFX is rather limited as this stuff is quite new.
>> But I took the challenge as this all looks neat. I'll go looking
>> around for material; no problem. (I would appreciate any pointers
>> though. :-D
>>
>> There is one thing I won't find out though: What would people
>> especially like to learn in such a course ? (Assuming they're seasoned
>> Java developers.)
>>
>> I was thinking of at least covering the subject of 'dull' data entry
>> techniques; something all the nice demo's I've seen are not showing.
>> Alas, many JavaFX applications will need to apply these techniques in
>> one way or another. Our trade is all about processing data, or is it ?
>> Personally I've only rarely developed applications where it's all
>> about multi-media.
>>
>> So, what would you people in here really like to see in a JavaFX
>> course ?
>>
>> Thank you for any suggestion or clue !!
>>
>> Merry Christmas !
>>
>> Jan
>>
>>
>>
>
> >
>

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