There is also JSmooth as an option for windows wrappers (http://
jsmooth.sourceforge.net/)
We have recently added support for it as a plugin for the Griffon
framework (http://griffon.codehaus.org)

On Jan 20, 3:43 pm, Alan Kent <[email protected]> wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
> > ...so I guess the obvious
> > question no-one has asked yet is why do you want to create a Java
> > application and not a native one? ...
>
> First, thanks everyone for the information so far.
>
> I was trying to keep the original post short, so I left out details.  I
> have two situations:
>
>     * A server process that we want to run on Windows and Linux - we use
>       Wrapper at present for this, but I was interested to see if "the
>       entire JavaFX desktop development environment" made Wrapper
>       unnecessary.   I think the answer is "some external software like
>       wrapper is still needed"
>     * A LiveScribe pen application (my primary interest)
>
> I have been playing a bit with the LiveScribe pen SDK.  You can write
> penlets using J2ME that run inside the pen.  They have not yet released
> full details on their application development model (I am asking
> questions and getting drip fed information).  That is, the stuff that
> would run on the desktop.  They have a Windows and a Mac version of the
> desktop.  They have said "applications will be stand-alone" and "we will
> provide a C/C++ API on Windows applications can call".  Overnight I just
> got some more information indicating that even though "stand-alone",
> they will do the installer which I had not expected - not sure now
> exactly what "stand-alone" means to them.  So I am no longer sure if I
> need Windows services integration, or whether they are going to launch
> application code when the desktop starts up, or...
>
> I was interested in doing the application in Java for several reasons:
>
>     * If Java wants more footing on the desktop, this felt like part of
>       the total problem to be solved
>     * I know Java - I don't know Windows UI development (yes I can learn it)
>     * I do know C++, but have only done server work (no Windows UI)
>     * I want to move the application to Mac later too (assuming
>       LiveScribe provide a similar API) - I had hoped using Java would
>       make porting later easier
>     * Since the penlet is written in Java, it made sense to me to write
>       the other side in Java.  I prefer sticking to one environment on
>       one project if I can.  E.g. I can share data structure definitions
>       for transferring between the pen and the desktop, I don't have to
>       have Eclipse and Visual Studio running at the same time on my poor
>       little laptop, etc.
>     * It was a good reason to look into JavaFX more seriously, but I
>       found the comment about "not that good yet for normal forms"
>       interesting (and consistent from limited browsing I had done).
>
> Re JavaFX: The recent RIA roundup podcast released talked (back in March
> last year) about how Sun might go after the customer base they already
> have first, in Swing - it looks like this is not the case if JavaFX is
> not (yet) a serious Swing application replacement.
>
> Thanks again,
> Alan
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