On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Tor Norbye <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Jan 30, 2:43 pm, Reinier Zwitserloot <[email protected]> wrote: > > Even after the obscure segmentation fault I mentioned in another > > thread, netbeans is unusable on mac os x. I don't understand why the > > posse sings netbeans' praises so, especially considering that most of > > them have macs. > > > > here's a list of things that bugged the hell out of me in the first 2 > > minutes: > > > > - the install isn't mac-like. It creates a directory in /Applications > > and then puts in a single .app file in there. Why not just dump this > > in /Applications directly? That's what every other mac app does. Not a > > show stopper, but shows lack of trying on the mac platform. > > > > - Nothing is remembered. Everytime I boot netbeans, it'll ask me to > > register. I can click 'never register' until I'm blue in the face. No > > luck. This is a show stopper. > > > > - hg isn't shipped with mac os x, and it isn't in netbeans either. > > Why not? It's open source. Python's already there, at least on os x > > leopard, so it can't be that hard. Even if you do install hg, netbeans > > can't find it. You have to manually go to the terminal, create > > a .MacOSX dir in your home file, and then an environment.plist, add / > > usr/local/bin there, and *LOG IN AGAIN*. Even technical users > > shouldn't be subjected to that kind of abuse. > > > > When your product takes over an hour to get working properly, you're > > doing it wrong. > > > > Verdict: Netbeans on mac is a toy project. > > Hey now - concluding that it's only a toy project based on these > observations is a bit premature. > > First of all, your comment that Mac applications should install > directly into /Applications rather than in a directory under > Applications. I agree that would be a good thing, but NetBeans is by > no means alone in this. In my /Applications I have a folder for Adobe > (containing only Acrobat), and there's a folder named "iWork 08" from > Apple (with Pages and Numbers inside), and there's a Python folder > (containing IDE, Python Launcher, etc). These are all adding a folder > rather than just an .app because they are installing multiple > components. In my NetBeans folder I have NetBeans (a couple of > versions actually), as well as an install of Apache Tomcat, and an > install of Glassfish. > > By the way, speaking of being Mac like - check out the new Mac look of > NetBeans in 7.0 daily builds: > http://blogs.sun.com/stan/resource/laf/nbdev.png WOW! Me Likes very much! > > > Next, your comment that "hg isn't shipped with mac os x, and it isn't > in netbeans either. Why not? It's open source.". I'm not sure > NetBeans should be in the business of distributing hg. It would also > have to install Python for you since hg depends on it. In any case, > I'm not sure why NetBeans didn't find hg for you. I have hg in my / > usr/local/bin, and NetBeans found it without any problems - I didn't > have to do any of the plist, login/logout stuff you're describing. You > -do- have /usr/local/bin in your $PATH, right? > > I have no idea why you keep getting the registration screen. It > doesn't happen for me, and if it was happening to everybody I'm sure > we would be run over by bug reports. In other words, the problem isn't > global, and it would be great if you could file a bug report to find > out what's going on in your case. It's supposed to store a flag in > your userdir recording your preference. > > Eric, you shouldn't have to go to the File view to create a new > folder. Just do New (on a package in the Projects view for example, or > from File > New), and then choose "Folder" from the "Other" > category. I'm not sure what you mean by importing files into a > folder (import what from where? just a file copy? just drag & drop > from folder A to folder B), but if you gave up using the tool just > based on this I'd encourage you to look a little deeper - most of the > benefits in the IDE is not going to be its file manipulation > capabilities, but refactoring, quickfixes, profiling, gui building, > etc etc etc. > I was trying to import image files from my linux home directory into my newly created "resources" directory in NetBeans (that I created in Files view). Is it a correct assumption that one can only work with source files and libraries in Project view? Let me be clear on what I wrote earlier though - I didn't give up on NB completely. I just ended up using my terminal to copy my image files since the IDE didn't make it simple enough for me to import my files. In Eclipse, I can simply right-click on the folder and import files from my filesystem. > > -- Tor > > > > -- Eric Angel --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
