very soon. On May 6, 2009, at 6:15 AM, Jan Goyvaerts wrote: > Another concrete remark : linux is not supported (yet). Do you have > an idea for when it is planned ? > > On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Joshua Marinacci <[email protected]> > wrote: > Thank you. Though you say it's subjective your criticisms are > concrete. Streaming video is choppy, the browser integration isn't > great, and you get certificate dialogs (though the JavaFX runtime is > signed by a trusted root cert, you still get the dialog on Mac). > These are all things we are aware of and are fixing. > > Thanks, > Josh > > > On May 6, 2009, at 5:57 AM, Michael Kimsal wrote: > >> Did anyone hear read 'blink' by Malcolm Gladwell? The crux of the >> book is >> that there are a number of 'snap decision' or 'gut reactions' >> people have, can't >> explain why, but are nonetheless born out as correct predictions/ >> assessments. >> I'm reminded of that in the JavaFX discussion. >> >> JavaFX can tick off all the right checkboxes with respect to >> technology, >> and has groups of people saying all the right stuff, yet a number >> of people >> (and I largely fall in this camp myself) are still saying 'no'. Or >> 'ick'. Or 'wtf?'. >> >> People asking for followups about "what specifically is wrong? we >> can't >> fix anything without specifics" are, in our camp's view, somewhat >> barking >> up the wrong tree. You can't "fix" it because the whole thing is >> 'wrong'. >> Yes, subjective terms, I know. Tweaking it with some functionality >> enhancements or adding some new feature really isn't going to change >> people's minds too much, at least in the short term. >> >> Not sure what else is going on with other languages, but the Griffon >> team has done a great job in building an environment for doing >> Swing app development with Groovy. >> >> I went to revisit the demo page for javafx just now. Why aren't >> the security >> certificates signed with a trusted root certificate? >> >> Not sure what the OP meant by 'ugly' but I'll throw out that just >> trying to watch the streaming video demo was painful. Video >> disappeared when I scrolled. Playback was choppy. Video quality >> was OK, but not quite as sharp as I remember silverlight or flex >> video playback being. I may be misremembering here, and I know >> that flash/flex can have some truly awful video as well - it's not >> perfect. Perhaps I'm not using the latest and greatest Java? >> >> java version "1.6.0_07" >> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_07-b06-153) >> Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 1.6.0_07-b06-57, mixed mode) >> >> >> >> On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 5:41 AM, Neil Bartlett >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I don't see any actual arguments here about what is wrong with >> JavaFX. >> >> Actually it seems to be the JavaFX Script language that you have a >> problem with, not the platform or libraries etc. So, aside from >> "ugly" >> and "unintuitive" (which are highly subjective), why exactly do you >> think there is "just no possible way any sizable (sic) group of >> critical mass will ever adopt JavaFX"? Isn't that what they said >> about >> Java? And Ruby, and Python, and... >> >> >> -- >> Michael Kimsal >> http://jsmag.com - for javascript developers >> http://groovymag.com - for groovy developers >> 919.827.4724 >> >> >> > > > > > > >
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