I feel similar. NetBeans is quite nice in many regards, but generally
lacking in terms of code hygiene. Between NetBeans not even
auto-formatting generated code and Eclipse fixing dozens of things as
"Save Actions" a lot is still to be done.
Let me elaborate. The premise is that I'm a bloody lazy guy, always
trying to care about the least amount of things possible (partly due to
bad memory ;-) ). So my standard Eclipse setup is configured to do a lot
of things on save:
* format code (on most projects only lines I changed since I don't want
messy commits)
* optimize imports (remove unnecessary, apply rules on use of .*, sort)
* add missing @Override and @Deprecated annotations
* remove trailing whitespace
* add missing braces
* add final to private members if possible
Having Eclipse do that for me on every save means I don't have to care
anymore. I like the code I read to be very neat, but I don't want to
bother writing neat code myself, with my Eclipse setup I can write:
for(Class obj: getSomething()) doSomething();
and Eclipse will turn it into:
for(Class obj: getSomething()) {
doSomething();
}
or
for(Class obj: getSomething())
{
doSomething();
}
depending on the project I'm working on (implied here is that I don't
bother thinking about a project's coding style either once my Eclipse is
all set up).
On the opposite end is NetBeans, where I have to constantly call the
code formatter and the import optimization. How can it not run at least
the generated code through a formatter?
It lacks the nice "copy imports with bits of code that use them", too.
It's good enough that I don't need to look at the import list, but it
certainly makes me think about imports more.
Otherwise I quite like NetBeans, but I really notice that it's lack of
automated code hygiene draws some of my attention away from solving real
problems to dealing with trivialities. Therefore it is currently not my
Java IDE, although I still use it for Groovy and JavaScript.
So all you NetBeans devs on this list: there is some feedback of someone
too lazy to file bug reports ;-)
Peter
Casper Bang wrote:
> Yes NetBeans HAS come a very long way but it's true its not there yet.
> For me, one of the few really big things missing now is line wrapping.
> I see people requesting this on the bug tracker almost every single
> day.
>
> /Casper
>
> On 18 Jun., 20:48, Ryan Waterer <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Erlend,
>>
>> Netbeans has come a very long way in the last couple of years.
>>
>> Since Tor has been talking about NetBeans, and the other Posse members have
>> commented how fantastic it is, I decided to look into it again back in
>> March. I now develop exclusively using Netbeans at home, and have started
>> the process of switching over at work.
>>
>> I suggest taking another look at it. :)
>>
>> --Ryan
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Erlend Hamnaberg <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Don't get me started on the deficiency of Netbeans. This feature is a must
>>> and has been in all others IDEs forever.
>>>
>>> Why the hell isn't JAVA a language that needs attention in Netbeans?
>>> Since this is written in Java, why isn't this the main language supported
>>> Java is the LEAST developed language of them all.
>>> You reallly need to focus on your main language, which should be Java.
>>>
>>> I really like Netbeans. But until you get REAL editor support for JAVA, I
>>> can't use it.
>>>
>>> Just my rant on on a Thursday.
>>>
>>> - Erlend
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 7:15 PM, TorNorbye <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Regarding "IDEs can only help to search for a class if I know its
>>>> name.":
>>>>
>>>> As of NetBeans 6.5 you can search for symbols too (Navigate > Go To
>>>> Symbol -- Ctrl-Shift-Cmd-O), not just classes - I use that sometimes
>>>> when I can't remember the class name. If I remember the method, or
>>>> field, I'm after I just use Go To Symbol to find it which takes me to
>>>> the right class.
>>>>
>>>> -- Tor
>>>>
> >
>
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