1. Bravo Dick. A landmark episode. If Microsoft or IBM had slid two new runtimes under the Java language, people would have been crying "fork". When you went to Google, I figured there was zero chance we would ever hear "whats all this then Mr Google?" on the Java Posse. But we did. Well called Sir.
2. And the counter argument from the others was also bang-on imo. Google has made its platform pick, and Java is the programmers not the program. 3. Perhaps Webkit in JDK 7 will let everyone be happy. Run GWT native if Java is there, and on Javascript if not. hink about it. [trouble ahead] 4. I don't really buy the idea that "Java the language is past its use- by, but that's OK because its all about the JVM anyway". The Java community have accepted multiple languages on the JVM, and it seems to me that accepting multiple runtimes under the java language* is the next step. 5. And on this basis, the Java language is the new Esperanto. If I write in Java I can potentially run on the JVM, on .Net, on Android, on GCJ, on odd and interesting platforms like PLT Scheme, Waba, XMLVM -and critically, on javascript web browsers. "Java, the cross platform language" Who'd have thought? :-) 6. And its OK to relax a bit because,the Java-Microsoft war is over - and Google won. . 7. And Apple won too. Apple gets to say to Java programmers "your Java's no good here sonny, learn obj-C, shut-up, and take your ticket at the app-store". And the Java guys say "OK, sure, whatever you say, please please please can I have my iPhone now..". 8. And Adobe won too. Cleaning Java's clock on the client, while Java people cheer them on. Eg Dick suggesting Google should use "JavaFX or Flash". Why not Silverlight Dick? ;-) 9. And Oracle won too. A war weary Sun staggering into its arms... 10. You have to wonder what IBM might do in a world of a thousand flowering un-Javas. With all that money still in the bank and Captain Larry running his flag up the Java mast. "IBM Flash Toolkit"? A Java.Next? C# on the JVM? Also: Can someone in Google please hire that Joe Nuxoll fellow. He loves the Google Apps. Sounds to me like he has an internet shaped cake in the oven. Did I mention how much he loves the Google Apps? Pete F --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
