Are you thinking of the drag and drop which is currently NOT supported by HTML5?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_UyVmITiYQ#t=16m16s It does not matter either way, because by the time wave is done, all vendors will have an HTML5-ready version. I'm pretty sure that 95% of the people will upgrade when they get a whiff -- or spume if you will -- of wave (assuming it will fulfill all my wild fantasies.. ;). With kind regards Ben On Jun 30, 7:00 am, ad <[email protected]> wrote: > hmm, all I know is from the wave demo watching google i/o videos, but > am almost sure I heard some piece of it at least required HTML5. I > think they only used safari and firefox for this reason. > > Adam > > On Jun 29, 11:51 pm, Michael Neale <[email protected]> wrote: > > > note that Wave doesn't require HTML5 at all, not sure where that came > > from? > > > On Jun 30, 1:50 pm, Dick Wall <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hi Ad > > > > I brought up flash because of all of the options discussed, it is the > > > most widely disseminated in a usable form (much higher penetration > > > than HTML 5 considering IE 6 and 7 don't have support for it yet, nor > > > does Firefox 3). I do agree that HTML 5 availability will grow as > > > browsers move forward, but I also have my issues with the promise of > > > GWT - for example, while I have been using the firefox 3.5 beta for > > > some time as my primary browser, it has not been supported by GWT. I > > > just went to the GWT site to look at the list of supported browsers > > > and I can't seem to find it right now (can anyone point me to it - I > > > like to have my facts straight). > > > > Without strong support and clear details on supported browsers, and > > > timetables for their support, I would not want to commit a project to > > > using GWT when it might result in people not being able to use my > > > site. > > > > I am playing devils advocate a little. Open standards are, of course, > > > good. I think there are some valid reasons to question the HTML 5/ > > > browser only approach though - if only to get a discussion going. I > > > don't believe Google will develop a flash version of wave, even though > > > they do use flash heavily for other services (analytics, finance, > > > youtube, etc.). However it is noteworthy that the selling point of > > > wave seems to be "look at what we can do in the browser!" rather than > > > "look at what we can do!". I also fully expect to see flash or JavaFX > > > wave clients quickly pass the browser version in terms of pizazz and > > > functionality, although I think the browser version will rule for > > > market share. > > > > I think we should not be to caught up in what we can do in the browser > > > though as the be-all and end-all of development. I think a future > > > solely consisting of web applications is a limited one indeed. > > > > Several people have addressed the question of accessibility already, > > > but I will point out that a pure javascript application is no more > > > inherently accessible than a flex one - I know this was a big focus of > > > T.V. Raman when I worked at Google - how to make GWT and JavaScript > > > behave nicely for the visually impaired and other accessibility > > > concerns. > > > > Anyway - I believe it made for a good discussion, which was the point > > > after all. I think the next few years are going to be interesting. > > > > Dick > > > > On Jun 29, 7:44 pm, ad <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > +1 > > > > > This rant seemed odd, especially bringing up flex so much. Does > > > > anybody honestly believe google would consider using flex for the wave > > > > ui?! Flash support is still bad in unix. Flex has its place, > > > > especially in the business app world, but is disliked by many and the > > > > interfaces are often clumsy or even inaccessible to some. JavaFx just > > > > isn't open or mature yet, and obviously Silverlight is not an option. > > > > Google has been all about speeding up javascript and making the > > > > browser the app platform. Open standards/Chrome/javascript/html is > > > > decidedly the google client platform of choice. > > > > > Adam --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
