Eric, I don't think it is fair to call somebody who accepts the Jigsaw project's decision a "Jigsaw fan." I can't speak for anybody else, but I don't see their decision as a partisan issue. The engineers with the fingers on the keyboard seem like reasonable people, and they say that this is the best decision for their circumstances (technical and deadline), so I accept that. Its not an issue of rooting for not- OSGI v.s. OSGI for me. I'm sure others feel this way as well.
Thanks. On Jul 1, 6:52 pm, Eric Newcomer <[email protected]> wrote: > Bill, > > Thanks very much. In the end I realized I over reacted, and the right thing > was to take it down. I also appreciate where things are right now, i.e. in a > better conversation. > > One of the things Dick said about this (paraphrasing) was that it might have > been different if I had a better experience with the community. After > following Java Posse discussions for a while now I agree that's the case. > > It can sometimes be difficult to identify business/political motivations in > technical discussions, and I think Dick also was right to say some folks > posting to the list were just trying to score political points. I would say > this was what triggered my over-reaction. > > One thing I would like to say in terms of a comment on this topic is that I > think everyone recognizes the goals of Jigsaw as being valid, and I don't > blame anyone for being a fan of Jigsaw. But many of its goals have already > been achieved in OSGi, and I would hope that the Jigsaw fans can understand > why those of us who had invested in OSGi before Jigsaw was started raise the > question of why OSGi was not used as the starting point. I know that the > Jigsaw folks replied to these points, but I think it's also understandable > to question the replies, given the historical rivalry of Sun vs IBM over the > future of Java, and the use of OSGi in Eclipse. > > Eric > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Bill Robertson > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > Eric, > > > You took some heat for posting this in the first place, so I think its > > only fair that you be recognized for doing the right thing. > > > Thanks. > > > On Jun 30, 9:19 am, Eric <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I took this down. Apologies for the over- reaction. > > > > Eric > > > > On Jun 26, 5:24 pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > >http://modualrit.blogspot.com/2009/06/jigsaw-posse.html --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
