Hi Folks

I am indeed looking forward to the next roundup, and have a lot more
information although we don't have any firm details on time to release
yet (cos we haven't decided exactly when yet).

For the last three years we have had the roundup during ski season,
and based on some of the feedback from the last one we decided to
shake things up just a little for next year, so instead we will be
holding it in Crested Butte during the summer of next year instead of
the winter (if that helps you decide, Mark :-) ). During the summer,
Crested Butte is very beautiful and offers just as much outdoor
activity albeit different during the summer - there is downhill
mountain biking (the lifts are converted to bike lifts), cross country
mountain biking (including some legendary trails), and of course
hiking. Being a mountain bike enthusiast myself, I am really looking
forward to this for a change.

This does not mean that we won't go back to skiing in the future -
it's possible that we will alternate years or something, but at least
some of the feedback we got from people was that the skiing was a
barrier rather than a benefit in some cases, so mixing it up seemed
like a good option.

Also please note that any and all activities are optional. If you just
want to geek out the whole time, you will no doubt find self
organizing groups to join you. Not being much of a skier myself, and
also because it usually takes me some time to adjust to the thin (very
thin) air in CB, the last roundup I actually went skiing only once,
and snow mobiling once, and did a lot of afternoon geeking (code dojos
on JavaFX, Flex, Scala etc.). The conference is totally what you make
it, however we have the advantage over other conferences that you can
easily weave exercise into the overall experience. Personally I can't
wait to do some serious mountain biking, once I have the altitude
under control.

Also, I know it is an expensive proposition, primary costs are flight
and lodging. Lodging is definitely improved by sorting out a house to
share with people - roundup people tend to be very self organizing and
the shared houses have been super-successful over the past three
conferences - just hang out there that you are looking for housemates
and find a likely rental house in CB. There is also a low cost hostel
(don't know a lot about that). Cheap flights can be found -
particularly to Denver if you are able to drive or car-pool from there
- or you could use air miles.

If you can get flights and lodging cheaply, but still can't afford the
full cost of admission, by all means contact us. It's $600 for 5 days
(well, technically 4, but we have the extra JVM alternative languages
day now which while open to everyone tends to be seen as the kickoff
to the roundup). We think $600 is pretty decent value, but I have said
before that if anyone wants to contact us, we can certainly talk :-).

And yes, I am totally looking forward to the next one. We believe it
will be some time in July but obviously don't book tickets just yet
(although if you really want to go, you might mark something in the
calendar so you don't go off on a long cruise around that time...).

Cheers

Dick



On Aug 3, 2:29 pm, Mark Derricutt <[email protected]> wrote:
> As much as I'd love to go myself, a) I reallllly hate the cold b)
> Flying from New Zealand would make be broke for the next 5 years :(
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> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 6:59 AM, Todd Costella<[email protected]> wrote:
> > As someone that has attended the three previous roundups, all paid for out
> > of pocket, all I can say is just go. Pick bottles, busk on a street corner,
> > whatever. Just come. You won’t regret it.
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