Phil: Heh, someone else created a new thread. I answered there before I read your question here :)
NB: In case it wasn't obvious, I'm just reporting my impressions for attending the java language-based sessions and BOFs at Devoxx. On Nov 19, 11:52 am, Phil <[email protected]> wrote: > My main issue with all of this is not what is being done, but that the > RC has slipped from February to October/November timeframe. Thread > Hijack! > > On Nov 19, 10:16 am, Reinier Zwitserloot <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Clarifications straight from Mark Reinhold at the later BOF here at > > #devoxx. > > > 1. His syntax is a strawman written up in de airplane. The point is: > > Mark and friends have always loved closures, they just weren't sure > > java should have them, as it has such a big impact on the feel of the > > language. It is NOT AN ENDORSEMENT OF FCM. He was very specific about > > that. He was also quite specific about keeping it simple (willing to > > give up transparency et al). The point is, yes closures, no > > complexity. Syntax is a teensy tiny detail of this, so don't get hung > > up on that aspect. > > > 2. For reasons unrelated to the new language features in java7, java7 > > will be delayed from feb to at least sept. There's time, so, the scope > > of lang features for java7 has just expanded. Thus, this is NOT AN > > INDICTMENT on Project Coin at all. On the contrary, Joe Darcy is here, > > and he's planning on running more coins for the future. Mark Reinhold > > *SPECIFICALLY* said he does not believe the JCP is a good source of > > innovation, which seems like an *endorsement* of coin. > > > 3. During the closure wars of 2007, Mark decided to let the dust > > settle and play with the prototypes. > > > 4. As java7 is delayed A LOT (due to the apache/sun tiff in the JCP), > > and even the JDK7 has been delayed quite a bit (to at least sept), > > java8 is of course also going to be around much later. So, Mark has > > realized that now is probably the right time. > > > 5. Of course there will be discussion with the community about how to > > do it. He's also been privately talking to lots of key players in sun, > > and they've all indicated they think it's time for closures, too. > > > 6. Parallel Arrays are involved as a driving force behind the notion > > that closures are needed. > > > 7. Another feature that's back on the 'maybe' list is multicatch: > > catch (IllegalAccessException | InvocationTargetException e) { ... do > > stuff with e...} > > > Reporting from Devoxx, > > > --Reinier Zwitserloot > > > On Nov 19, 9:26 am, Fabrizio Giudici <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > Casper Bang wrote: > > > > True, still confusing though. The release seems to have been > > > > postponed, JDK7 features are not final just like Coin is not final > > > > (http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/coin-dev/2009-November/ > > > > 002461.html). Does that mean the community has a new window for > > > > contributing? > > > > I'm not understanding anything - it sounds as everybody attending Devoxx > > > got it in a slightly changed way. An official blog post would be > > > welcome, at this point. > > > > Yes, it seems that the releaseo of JDK7 has been postponed to the end of > > > 2010. If it's the case, I understand it's a reasonable thing to re-think > > > the features. But, please, communicate in the proper way! > > > > -- > > > Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager > > > Tidalwave s.a.s. - "We make Java work. Everywhere." > > > weblogs.java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici -www.tidalwave.it/people > > > [email protected] -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=.
