Does quantum really class as single thread though?  I tend to think of it as
the ultimate in parallelism...

On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Jess Holle <[email protected]> wrote:

>  Agreed.
>
> So we're talking optical or quantum computers for major single-thread
> performance gains, which are in the works, but clearly not right around the
> corner.
>
>
> Casper Bang wrote:
>
> Even if we had super conducting materials (i.e. no current leakage and
> no problem with heat dissipation), there's still the physical
> limitation of scaling transistors beyond a couple of atoms (the wall)
> as well as the constant speed of electrons - 3GHz means impulses are
> 100% out of sync after traveling just a couple of cm. Heat is more an
> annoying consequence of CPU's effectively being over-clocked from the
> manufacturer today (remember when a 486 or Pentium required just a
> tiny heat sink?).
>
> /Casper
>
> On Nov 25, 5:31 pm, Jan Goyvaerts <[email protected]> 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>  Ok, my mistake. I guess 135K (about -138°C) is not exactly in the achievable
> range for a regular computer. :-)
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 17:23, Jan Goyvaerts <[email protected]> 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-temperature_superconductivity
>
>  On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 17:17, Jan Goyvaerts <[email protected]> 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>
>   Didn't they discover a superconductor recently that 'super-conducts' at a
> quite achievable temperature ?
>
>
>   On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 16:04, Joshua Marinacci <[email protected]> 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>
>    Unlikely. The single core speed problem is due to fundamental limits of
> physics. The only way we will make single cores significantly faster is
> through major silicon process improvements (perhaps using new materials),
> major cooling improvements (very unlikely), or by making programming models
> more tolerant of physical errors (which would be very interesting).
>
>
>    - josh
>
>
>    On Nov 25, 2009, at 5:01 AM, Mikael Grev wrote:
>
>
>     1. a single CPU core is not going to become any faster. That's right;
> a single thread is never going to run any faster in the future. We've
> reached the end of the line as far as clock speed and on-chip
> parallelization is concerned.
>
>
>      Bill Gates said that 640k was more than anyone would ever need.
>
>
>     Something tells me that some innovative person will find a way to
> circumvent the problem.
>
>
>     :)
>
>
>     Cheers,
> Mikael
>
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