Hm, hadn't thought of that. Good point. JSR-310 getting a definitive
yes or no vote should help today.

So, it only took one tweak to an existing topic instead of 10. Someone
should call the newspaper.

NB: Casper, I just realized that we don't actually have to change the
grammar rules in order to implement operator overloading, though we do
need resolution (knowing the types of expressions) which is not
currently something lombok has (as lombok runs before the resolution
step). Once we extend lombok a little to have this information, we'll
toss operator overloading for BigDecimal and BigInteger right up there
with @Delegate and @Mixin.

On Dec 2, 12:06 pm, Fabrizio Giudici <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Reinier Zwitserloot wrote:
> > You know, I stopped caring about JSR-310. Provisionally.
>
> > Here's the problem of jodatime: It sufferes from -just-this-once-
> > syndrome.
>
> > If I need to format a date, I know jodatime is easier, but, for just
> > this once, It's not worth it. I'll just stick with SimpleDateFormat.
> > Same applies for parsing dates, and even for limited arithmetic
> > (though the horrors of java.util.Calendar means I'll go for jodatime
> > real fast when arithmetic gets involved). Of course, the next time,
> > it's still just-this-once. Adding jodatime to a project adds a
> > dependency, requires me to do some setup work on the project and
> > across various build tools, etc, etc. Often, it's one of the first
> > things you run into when building a prototype, often  before you've
> > got your dependency system all sorted, and you just couldn't be
> > bothered. Then, later, when you've got everything set up nicely to
> > handle dependencies (you've got maven rolling or some such), you still
> > feel it isn't worth switching as you then feel that for consistency's
> > sake you would have to go through all existing uses of Date, SDF, and
> > Calendar, and fix them too.
>
> > Thus: just-this-once syndrome.
>
> Hmm... I see things in a different way (Reiner, I think it will take
> another ten topics before we find again something on which we agree ;-)
> ;-) ;-)
>
> The mere fact that Date is mutable is enough for making me want to
> switch to JodaTime / JSR-310. I'm sick of all those return (date !=
> null) ? new Date(date.getTime()) : null;
>
> For me, I've been using JodaTime in a custom project 2+ years ago and
> it's ok for me. Then I decided to adopt it for all my stuff, but at the
> time I decided to wait for JSR-310, so I won't have to do another big
> replacement (and API change) within (what was supposed to be) a short
> time. Then there was the JRS-310 and JDK 7 delays, and from today's
> perspective I probably should have already moved to JodaTime. This
> uncertainty has prevented me from making a decision, which I have to
> reconsider with a fresh mind. Having advice about JSR-310 being
> accelerated would push me definitely.
>
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