>At the moment I have 2.5k messages in my inbox with
>Thunderbird (my fault, it's not a tidy management of email
>if you have so many in inbox, but that's another matter) and
>other mailboxes with more than 10k emails (e.g. the Wicket
>one). It works, and it doesn't sound slow, what's the
>problem? :-) There are other implementation details of
>Thunderbird that I don't like.

Why on earth would I want to sort my inbox?!
I have search, which is powerful and fast. There is no need for tidy
email management. This of course is one of Gmail's great strength.
I don't want to be rude but I think you should try something before
writing it off, probably true for facebook as well.


On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 10:48 AM, [email protected]
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> ----- Original Message -----
> Da : Kfir Shay <[email protected]>
> A : [email protected]
> Oggetto : Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Why is Netbeans >
> Eclipse?
> Data : Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:21:57 -0500
>
>> I heard about this obscure app called Gmail that uses
>> HTTP/HTML/JavaScript, word on the street is that it works
>> pretty well for a set of hacks ;)
>
> Well, yes it's a set of hacks. :-) In the end, unfortunately
> I have to say that the fact that a thing works doesn't imply
> it is well designed: this statement is drawn from my
> experience, having seen tons of industrial systems in banks,
> trade exchanges, telcos, real time telemetry systems,
> industrial control processes and whatever, all of them
> "working" and most of them with a lot of hacks in some part
> of the system.
>
> I don't use GMail, because I think it's crazy to put all my
> email in Google's hands (but this is another point). I don't
> think that its success is due to the particular technology,
> rather to Google big power in pushing its solutions because
> they are fashionable (not by chance I say that Google is XXI
> century Microsoft - of course, their technology is anyway
> much superior to Microsoft's).
>
> I also see that in order to having it work properly, they
> had to introduce Gears, which - yes - is another hack to the
> concept of webapp. I think that if Adobe were interested in
> the same core business, they could have done it with Flex.
>
>> And if your backend is scalable and done right than you
>> get the best of both worlds
>
> Yes, and here Google has got the supremacy of course, but I
> think it's not relevant to the rest of the discussion. You
> can plug any kind of client technology on a scalable back
> end.
>
>>
>> Fabrizio did you try to use a desktop mail client with 6k
>> (~2.5GB) messages in your inbox... why won't you do that
>> on your desktop and tell its better than Gmail
>
> At the moment I have 2.5k messages in my inbox with
> Thunderbird (my fault, it's not a tidy management of email
> if you have so many in inbox, but that's another matter) and
> other mailboxes with more than 10k emails (e.g. the Wicket
> one). It works, and it doesn't sound slow, what's the
> problem? :-) There are other implementation details of
> Thunderbird that I don't like.
>
> --
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>
>
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