http://www.oracle.com/us/products/ondemand/index.htm

They don't call it cloud, they call it (get this) Application
Management Outsourcing.

But as an Oracle employee I've supported a few customer deployments to
OnDemand.  We tend to call it SaaS which at least is comprehensible to
the world.

When Joe said on the podcast that Ellison "doesn't get it" about the
cloud, or Dick said "they only sell to cloud providers," they were
unaware of this initiative which has gone on for years....

...without the success Larry wanted....

Sun wasn't the only one with a 'Network is the Computer' slogan, Larry
was pushing the 'network computer' since the late 1990's.

-- Andrew

On Jan 28, 8:03 am, Casper Bang <[email protected]> wrote:
> That was kind of expected, especially given their focus on hardware -
> Oracle already makes huge money by delivering non-cloud software (and
> I believe Larry famously said the cloud is dead). Ironically, I think
> we're finally moving into the age appropriate for Sun's old moniker
> "the network is the computer". So you have got to wonder whether Sun/
> Oracle isn't turning into another IBM now, primarily servicing
> conservative and legacy systems.
>
> /Casper
>
> On Jan 28, 12:18 pm, Karsten Silz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 28, 5:11 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > They are killing, at least, one project.  Kenai is dead.  See the FAQ
> > > on OTN.
>
> > First of all, this is very positive news for the Sun employees since
> > most of them will keep their job.  Where the products overlap, the Sun
> > stuff (Glassfish, Netbeans, MySQL) seems to be pushed into the "web
> > corner" with the Oracle Stuff (Weblogic, JDeveloper, Oracle DB) firmly
> > remaining in the "enterprise corner".  A lot better than being
> > canceled altogether!
>
> > It seems that the only huge product being killed so far is the planned
> > Sun cloud (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/28/
> > sun_amazon_cloud_dead/).
>
> > I am now convinced that being taken over by Oracle was better for Sun
> > than being taken over by IBM and HP and is better for the industry as
> > a whole because this will put some heat on IBM, HP and Dell.

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