Newest programming paradigms? Wow. FP was "hot" back in the early 90's, but not in industry. I'm not sure how it fits better with event- driven guis. Can you help me understand that?

I'm not sure "best OO" is any more or less "best programming" than is "best fp" or "best structural". These are different ways to cut a problem. OO is really good at co-ordinating complexity. FP is really good at divide-and-conquer. yadda yadda. I'm not sure I agree with the premises of the comparison.

The above is unrelated to elements or whatever. I have no arguments that you can make beautiful apps in any (well, nearly any) language.

cheers,
Christian.

On Apr 27, 2010, at 10:23 AM, Kevin Wright wrote:

I sometimes can't help wondering if OO is waning now.
FP certainly seems to be on the rise and, I must say, seems to be a much better fit for event-driven GUI interfaces.

Ironically, in their desire to (allegedly) force people to keep up to date with the newest APIs, Apple have denied us the opportunity to keep up with the newest programming paradigms.

For how long will "best OO" be equivalent to "best programming", assuming it ever was, or that the cutoff point hasn't already been surpassed.

I strongly encourage you to check out the "Elements" application, available on iPhone/iPad/iPod Touch < 4.0

http://www.popsci.com/gadgets/article/2010-04/exclusive-making-elements-one-ipads-most-magical-apps

Written in mathematica, no less, and one of the most beautiful applications I've ever seen.



On 27 April 2010 15:01, Christian Edward Gruber <[email protected] > wrote: Having lived within the Objective-C community for most of my career, I can safely assert that a whole lot of that community are some of the best O-O folks I've ever worked with. And the most passionate around O-O and high-quality software. Just my own observation. They may not need you. And having seen Android apps and iPhone equivalents... I personally have found the iPhone equivalents to be notably better in usability.

Again, none of my statements above are in support of apple's policy - just that they may get away with it because the above mitigates the costs of what you're describing.

Christian.


On Apr 27, 2010, at 9:49 AM, Kevin Wright wrote:

What bothers me is that I can't see Objective C as something worth investing my time in or getting excited over, nor can I imagine that it would be the language of choice for many developers at the top of their game. A great deal of talent is going to be locked out here, and I suspect this is the start of the end for innovation on the iThingie. From this point forward, the primary motivator for future apps will be ROI and not passion. Welcome to corporate mediocrity...


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