Oh - I did forget to mention that Steam is about to come out on Linux too. I will be buying some games for sure, andI think a lot of other will too - perhaps this will convince some of the skeptics.
On May 17, 3:32 pm, Dick Wall <[email protected]> wrote: > Oracle sells pretty well on Linux :-), yeah - it's a server app, but > you only specified commercial software. > > Other areas where it's doing pretty well include movies and graphics > (CAD and 3d modelling software like Alias Wavefront in particular). I > think World of Goo did pretty well on Linux too (certainly it's one of > the more fun games I have bought recently). > > We'll see how things change when Google gets Chrome OS out (hell - > it's already changing quite a lot with Android). Personally I would > also love to see Adobe take the same line that Oracle did - why not > sell their entire suite as a package that includes their own version > of Linux as a base. They could easily add in their own fonts, color > syncing technologies, etc. into it, and then offer Creative Suite 5L > (no operating system required). As James points out, a lot of > pragmatic Linux developers do buy software to run, they just have to > do so under emulation or virtualization - both of which, because it's > Linux, run fantastically well and are absolutely bulletproof. > > It's also worth noting that the Netflix app for the iPad is, like all > of their other player applications, free to use. This speaks to the > idea that the selling of software as a model is seems to be going away > - software is increasingly an extension to a service and that is what > we are talking about here. Not many would expect (sadly) Netflix or > Apple to actually make software for Linux. The point (as it has been > since the thread started) is that if content is DRMd, then the open > source community cannot even make their own. Obviously it doesn't suit > Apple's goals to make this content available for Linux because if they > did, some people might figure out that the nice laptop they can buy > for half the price (or indeed the one they already have) runs faster > with Linux and can do everything they need. I would say that is a > pretty occams razor simplest solution. > > I fear this is descending into a tit-for-tat now so I am going to stop > at this point. I will say that you will never convince me that > actively preventing content from reaching a platform through DRM, if > the cost to you is otherwise zero (or close to - how much would it > take for Microsoft to put the DRM for silverlight out to the Moonlight > project for example?), is anything but a play for control. It also > will not work indefinitely (Linux people do tend to find a way if the > itch is bad enough - just look at what happened to DVD protection). > > On May 17, 12:45 pm, Chris Adamson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > But with Linux so popular, and its users truly willing to pay for > > stuff, what commercial product has ever been a major success on the > > platform? Are there games with Linux versions that have done well? > > Productivity apps? Heck, if Adobe is such a friend of Linux, and the > > platform is so popular with web developers, why isn't CS5 available in > > a Linux version? > > > Occam's Razor says that poor business prospects on the platform, not > > an active conspiracy, is why you don't see Linux clients for DRM- > > constrained products like Netflix movies, Kindle books, etc. > > > -Chris > > > On May 17, 3:36 pm, Casper Bang <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I'm going to say one more really mean thing that will piss everyone > > > > off: when you have a community that has repeatedly made it clear that > > > > it is not willing to pay for stuff, and whose intellectual leadership > > > > rails against the concept of intellectual property itself, it probably > > > > cuts into the business prospects of trying to sell media to this > > > > audience. > > > > Once again you're painting with very broad strokes here. The Linux > > > culture is quite a bit more diverse than the high-priest mono-culture > > > you are suggesting. I count myself lucky to be living in a country > > > where media standards are not dictated simply by the de-factory > > > proprietary format, and I have no issue whatsoever paying for > > > software. There are more moderate views than those pushed by Richard > > > Stallman i.e. try to see what Novell and Miguel de Icaza are doing. > > > Linux dominates servers, is about to dominate the smartphone marked... > > > I think it's a grave mistake to disregard desktop Linux on those > > > merits. > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "The Java Posse" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > [email protected]. > > > For more options, visit this group > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "The Java Posse" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Java Posse" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. 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