On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 05:20, Reinier Zwitserloot <[email protected]> wrote:
> A while ago, java dipped below C's rating in the tiobe programming
> index, and this caused the usual battery of 'java is dying' doomsayers
> to crop up, some even here on the javaposse forum.

And BTW: In the meantime Java is in pole position again.

And those who are comparing the decrease in Java with the Increase of
C# do not consider that in most cases, where people move to C# is that
they are coming from Visual Basic (I don't know anybody switching from
Java to C# but I know plenty of people moving from C++ or Visual Basic
to .net and some moving from C++ or Visual Basic to Java). If you
consider this fact, you notice that the decrease of the use of VB is
more than the gain of C# - ergo: It is very likely that Microsoft is
loosing market share in software development branch.

And that is no wonder IMHO because: Learning a new programming
language is a long-term investment. In front of the current situation
and possible futures it does not make much sense to focus on a
language bound to a particular platform. Even although there is Mono,
I have heard and read too much about incompatibilities so I would not
take the risk if there are other choices.

Personally my guess is that a big part of the decrease in Java is
because of newer languages like Groovy or Scala and some are moving to
those (or trying those on some new projects).

OK, I am sure there are even samples moving from Java to C# - even if
just because of a change in job.

I really wonder, why there is no RISE in Java. OK, many thinking of
changing their main programming language - from a current point of
view - maybe look to Scala for example. But there is yet no guarantee
that this will be the next generation of Java. I would guess that some
of the new folks would still choose Java because they want to go the
stable path.

But there is another interesting thing. I summed up the statistics
from tiobe and the result is a total minus of -3,2 % - I hope the
percentage is not calculated from the languages part because then
those percentages are not really comparable. But as the total of the
top 20 is "only" about 89 percent of total ,probably the dispersal is
more to other minor languages in general - this would confirm somehow
the rise of more and more programming languages - basically there are
more created than dying...

-- 
Martin Wildam

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