Something in this direction( I mean JSF )..

http://www.javabeat.net/tips/148-advantages-and-disadvantages-jsf.html

http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=31577

To be honest, I found JSF's back-end archuitecture (for hiding logic) very
useful and business friendly. I do not know much about Lift but it sure is
cool at first look..I dont know how well my PM will like this, especially
when I look at the options available to us(at the lowest cost)..

We have the client hiding so much logic on the back-end with tweaks and
tunings that make security a big issue.Not to forget reusability as this an
maintenance project ( :(..ya I know)

Anyways, thanks for the update. Stil I want to know why JSF is so hated..

Regards,
jd

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Viktor Klang <viktor.kl...@gmail.com>wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 3:21 PM, jitesh dundas <jbdun...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> +1..
>>
>> JSF is good for security purposes and t he reason that it is in demand
>> (again :)..) is the back-end security with integration that makes life so
>> easy..
>>
>
> Sorry, but JSF has nothing when compared to Lift when it comes to security.
>
>
>>
>> It is the ease of business logic and sense that matters, not the framework
>> integration efforts down the drain..
>>
>> Regards,
>> JD
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Vince O'Sullivan 
>> <vjosulli...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> On Jul 15, 10:36 am, Carl Jokl <carl.j...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > I did get a book on JSF in the past but I expect it will be out of
>>> > date now as JSF 2.0 has come out. I know JSF is criticised for being
>>> > more complex than it is felt it needs to be. That said others
>>> > challenge that it is not as complex as it is made out to be.
>>>
>>> I'm no expert on web frameworks by any means but I have been getting
>>> into JSF 1.2 recently.  Accidentally, I downloaded the JSF 2.0 sample
>>> code for Geary and Horstmann's Core JavaServer Faces book and was
>>> puzzled with the examples worked although half the code was
>>> "missing".  It turns out JSF 2.0 is much, much simpler than JSF 1.2.
>>> The use of annotations means that the cursed faces-config.xml file is
>>> much smaller, simpler and sometimes not needed at all.
>>>
>>> (Unfortunately, this discovery cost me another thirty quid for the
>>> latest edition of the book.  Can well recommend it, though.)
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