> the reason this was brought up in the podcast is Dick was wondering why Apple/Google aren't courting Java devs.
I don't really agree with this point. Romain Guy speaks at Devoxx. Google App Engine is also talked about there. They produce Eclipse plugins for all their tools. Java devs who don't know by now that Android is Java (enough) or that Google has a lot of Java tools probably just aren't interested. Sent by Moandji's android-servant ----- Reply message ----- From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Date: Fri, Jul 23, 2010 17:40 Subject: [The Java Posse] Re: could someone explain how Oracle could sue Google over android? To: "The Java Posse" <[email protected]> the reason this was brought up in the podcast is Dick was wondering why Apple/Google aren't courting Java devs. My guess is 1) they don't need to, both are getting tons of devs 2) apple sees java as a bunch of enterprise devs - which it considers uninteresting for the most part. On Jul 23, 8:48 am, Fabrizio Giudici <[email protected]> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 7/23/10 16:32 , robogeek wrote: > > > But... is it good thing? Android, by being incompatible with the > > Java ecosystem, is increasing fragmentation in the world. This > > will lead to greater entropy and the eventual heat death of the > > universe. We must stop this and get Android to be compatible with > > Java to decrease the entropy in the world and save humanity. > > Yes and no. Yes, in the sense that any initiative to defragment is > good. No, because: > > 1. Android won't give up with Dalvik > 2. Android will never implement Swing or AWT or other stuff that > Google doesn't want on Android. > > So, it's impossible to have a "full Java" convergence of Android. > Technically, the Java thing should be split in modules (such as JME) > with separate TCK for each module, and Android could aim at being > compatible with some modules (language + core runtime - swing etc...). > Perhaps it could go in hand with the JDK 7 modularization (but I don't > know if the JDK 7 modularization boundaries are such as I depicted > them, i.e. if Swing is properly modularized). > > In any case I don't think this will ever happen for political reasons. > > - -- > Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager > Tidalwave s.a.s. - "We make Java work. Everywhere." > java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici -www.tidalwave.it/people > [email protected] > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla -http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iEYEARECAAYFAkxJq9UACgkQeDweFqgUGxdglwCgsnIPxQlPkGKaBI36+Y6Z18Jj > x8YAoJiCYi2OehBmluhGYknNNyEi75Dj > =ORAr > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
