You can't claim that the numbers I posted are subjective, I counted
them fair and square!
*this* post however, will be subjective.

The idea that all kids go to "high school" and have a "grade 11" is
also subjective :)
I give you... Kojo!
http://netbeans.dzone.com/learn-scala-with-kojo

It's also subjective to simply discredit any methodology that happens
to disagree with your gut feelings.

Incidentally, the "few object-oriented features" in Scala amount to a
more complete/purer OO language than the entirety of Java.
i.e.
all values are objects (no primitives)
all members are defined on an *instance* of some class, and are
capable of inheritance/overriding (no statics)

The way I see it is that Scala = Java
- the non-OO bits
- other boilerplate
- frustrating restrictions
+ FP
+ a world class type system

and yes, that's subjective.  At least until someone comes up with
measurable criteria for "frustrating restrictions" :)


On 06/08/2010, ADRA <[email protected]> wrote:
> This whole topic is by its nature subjective. Its not like Scala and
> Java are exact language fits for one another. As I see it, Scala is a
> functional language that has some object oriented features. Java is an
> object oriented language with a few procedural features (baggage) and
> will eventually have a few functional features. If you want to ask
> which one is easier, ask yourself if you like Wrox or Head start
> books. Each book conveys the information to you in the end, but each
> person reading them will have wildly different takes on each style of
> presenting the content.
>
> If you really want a quantifiable result, then get a pilot program
> with two high school grade 11 classes and teach one class Java and the
> other Scala. Personally, I find Java vastly simpler understand and use
> vs Scala, but I come from a solid procedural foundation long before I
> touched java. To forget the educational background of the person in
> question is a horrible mistake to make in this topic.
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