I think once upon a time it helped - but now if you claim ignorance of
existing patents too loudly it probably makes you look more guilty to
the judge.



On Aug 16, 5:46 pm, Steven Herod <[email protected]> wrote:
> Oh, I'm not disputing the stupidity of patents.  I mean, I think if
> you independently discover the same solution, there shouldn't be a
> case to answer.
>
> But *if* Google knowingly infringed then... well... do people view it
> differently?
>
> If Google had infringed on a "Little Guys" patent, thus robbing them
> of a future... would people view it differently?
>
>  I've thought about the lawsuit I've eventually come to the conclusion
> this doesn't effect me personally in the near or medium term.  If they
> want to throw money at lawyers, that's their issue.  Let the
> billionaires have their little windmills.
>
> On Aug 16, 5:39 pm, B Smith-Mannschott <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 09:27, Steven Herod <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Out of curiosity, in all of this, we're absolutely certain no former
> > > Sun engineers, fresh from patenting a concept at Sun (or working on
> > > said patented code) moved to Google and reimplemented the same thing
> > > the same way?
>
> > This is irrelevant. That's the beauty of patents. Google could have
> > imported engineers from Mars with no prior knowledge of any VM
> > implementation techniques. If they independently came to the solutions
> > covered by Oracle's patents, they'd still have to pay.
>
> > So, boys and girls, before you write your next line of code, make sure
> > to consult all potentially relevant patent registries.  Ignorance is
> > no defense. The fact that patents are written in impenetrable legalese
> > is no defense. The fact that it's often unclear if a patent even
> > applies until it's been tested in court is no defense. The fact that
> > testing said patent in court costs more than most mortals can afford
> > is also no defense. Happy hacking!
>
> > (Software patents make me grumpy.)
>
> > // Ben

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