> @Casper, dont be a fanboi, they=Google!= the guy who sells pop corn in
> the canteen..

Stop calling people fanboys and come up with solid argumentation
instead, we are all here, at some level, a fanboy!

>What "subtle degradation of Netbeans" are you referring to?

Mind you, I never said they were killing NetBeans (as some appear to
have interpreted it too). And perhaps it's just me, but I feel I've
picked up this vibe that JDeveloper is primary while NetBeans is
secondary. A few data-points used in that extrapolation (there are
many others, incl. Oracle's own vague testimony on the subject):
http://blogs.oracle.com/dana/2010/02/netbeans_to_jdeveloper_part_2.html
http://blogs.oracle.com/shay/2010/01/migrating_from_netbeans_to_jde.html

Remember, JDev was made free (as in beer) relatively late in 2005 when
they pretty much had to. If Oracle wants to tighten the race against
Eclipse and Idea, and make money, it seems likely that mission would
be handed to JDev since this is where extracts from their other
purchases is ending up (under their Fusion brand). Whether I am right
or wrong won't be proven anytime soon as NetBeans won't disappear over
night in any event, so perhaps we should  take the subject up again in
a year from now. :)

> It not like they are opening their search engine code,  adWords,  Big Table
> (yes white paper and it been copied),  GFS, GWS and any other important
> code. :)

Noooo, but now you are mixing livelihood products/services into the
picture. JavaFX and tools are also not open source, this appear to
have been meant to maintain Sun's livelihood. Unfortunately for Sun,
too little and too late to come into play. So I'd argue that the fact
that Google wants to make money on some closed stuff, doesn't negate
the open stuff they do in other places.

But we're getting off a tangent. Fact is, Android shares nothing but
the language interface with any of Oracle's stuff. It's can be seen as
a bold and calculated move by Google, but they DID play by the rules
and they DID get a lot more done than Sun/Oracle. As someone on
Twitter said: Those who can, do; those who can't; sue.

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