I did not define any problem. Look at the history here. Gosling etc. made it very, very clear, definitive, decisions in inventing Java. OS neutrality, pointers, memory, what to leave out. I maybe wrong also but I remember a key employee resigning based on supporting C++ on N Unix variants also played a part.
And this basically states why Java was successful. Java took 2 problems, OS dependence and Memory(pointer) management. These were massive. Java is also more easy/less complex the C++. So whats next ? Define the issues we still have. 1. Persistence has not evolved for the last 30 years. The mentality is still some loose binding that is not easy to develop to. SQL vs OO mess 2. Remoting. We are in no better shape than with Corba. Look at the WebServices spec, is that better than Corba? 3. Concurrency. Actors in Scala? Fantastic. But why cant a VM understand a loop that can be executed in parallel? I don't think we are talking about noddy improvements in semantics or conciseness like Scala promotes. Scala adds nothing to Java in the real world, compared to a better persistence idiom. The next evolution needs to be more realistic in what actually systems do right now. 2010/8/29 Cédric Beust ♔ <[email protected]> > > > On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 12:29 AM, Liam Knox <[email protected]> wrote: > >> First define the problem you want to solve. > > > You already did that: > > > All look rehashes and mutations of one another without providing any real > benefit from walking a way from Java with its standards, footprint, > community etc, etc. > > So, what language do you have to offer? > > -- > Cédric > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Java Posse" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<javaposse%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
