i think they could join OHA (which is not owned by google) and have a
properly licensed android phone with market access and all its goodness as
long as they obey the specs. And if they do that, i cant see how google
could/would block them

2010/9/21 Fabrizio Giudici <[email protected]>

>  On 9/20/10 16:24 , Cédric Beust ♔ wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> 2010/9/20 Fabrizio Giudici <[email protected] <mailto:
>> [email protected]>>
>>
>>
>>     On 9/20/10 13:53 , Cédric Beust ♔ wrote:
>>
>>        There are already dozens of manufacturers/third
>>        parties/carriers that forked Android and shipped products with
>>        it without ever notifying Google about it.
>>
>>        Android was designed to allow that, I don't understand where
>>        all the outrage about Facebook is coming from.
>>
>>    BTW, can you enumerate some? I knew that it's practically a
>>    challenge to keep up with forks, and that only a few ones (such as
>>    a big chinese telco) is doing that.
>>
>>
>> Well, any phone that doesn't ship with the Google logo was developed
>> without Google's involvement. Google has been involved in four phones in the
>> US, so all the others that you see are potential forks, including "sequels"
>> of Google phones (such as the Droid 2 and the Droid X).
>>
>>  Ok, my fault for bad wording - it's clear that we're not talking about
> Google branded phones, as they are pretty irrelevant. Let's restart.
>
> The point is not only in the fork per se, but in all the other things -
> that are not open - that makes an Android phone successful. First, the use
> of the Android Trade Mark. Second, the access to the Android Market. SInce
> we all know that the big fight is for ads, the intention of FaceBook is
> clearly to divert a substantial part of the incomes from Google to them -
> otherwise there would be no meaning in delivering a Facebook phone, as they
> already have an Android app in the Market.
>
> I don't think that such a "customization" would be ok for Google. I think
> they could keep the Facebook phone outside of the Market (especially after
> the latest update of the terms of use), and of course they can fire a roud
> of patent issues. OTOH Facebook might try to take advantage of the moment,
> as it could be embarassing for Google to play the Oracle's role at the same
> time that they are playing the opensource steward role.
>
> In any case, I repeat that I hope that this Facebook phone thing is just
> another hoax.
>
>
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