This does hit developers especially hard. We tend to use our machines far harder than anyone else, and to demand more from them.
As with anything in this world, the more you use a thing, the more the ergonomics matter, and Apple really do have some of the most ergonomic hardware (and interfaces) on the market. Windows may have a fantastic GUI, but it also *must* have anti-virus which slows things down - and that's just not ergonomic! I can understand the Apple perspective that typical end-users just don't run applications written in Java, but developers *do*. We tend to use it quite a lot; even if it inevitably runs on a server, it still gets written on something with a UI. Given that we'll now lose our only platform that's suited to both iOS and Java development, I suspect that a great many programmers will choose to abandon iPhone/iPad projects (if they haven't already). We'll end up with another walled garden where you choose to program against Apple products, or against Java, but rarely both. And that's where the irony comes in... So c'mon Steve, you do know how to say "fragmented", don't you? On 21 October 2010 11:22, Ricky Clarkson <[email protected]> wrote: > If Apple would open-source their changes, or sell them to Oracle under > a closed source licence, that would be wunderbar. > > On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Jan Goyvaerts™ <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Lot's of "IF" in this thread. :-) > > I'm not making a prediction, but my own "if" is: I would really be > surprised > > if no Java will be shipped to Mac the time JDK7 is ready. > > Apple was just the last big company missing in the JDK debate. Let's let > the > > dust settle. I'm sure the bottom line will be that everybody will have > Java. > > Mac included. > > > > On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:05, Carl Jokl <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> If there is no client side Java then the money being spent of JavaFX > >> is kind of waisted unless Mac O/S is just ignored. > >> > >> Can I just glare are Joe at this point *glare* *glare* *glare* > >> *you...you and all your kind...* > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > >> "The Java Posse" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> [email protected]<javaposse%[email protected]> > . > >> For more options, visit this group at > >> http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > >> > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "The Java Posse" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]<javaposse%[email protected]> > . > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Java Posse" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<javaposse%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > > -- Kevin Wright mail / gtalk / msn : [email protected] pulse / skype: kev.lee.wright twitter: @thecoda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
