Well stated Joe...I am in agreement with you. Josh Juneau [email protected] http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com http://www.jythonpodcast.com Twitter ID: javajuneau
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Joe Nuxoll (Java Posse) <[email protected]>wrote: > I don't have time or energy to read this whole thread, and I'm quite > sure we'll talk about this in our next recording (tonight), but I want > to at least chime in with some simple thoughts: > > 1) I think this means that Apple is scaling back their internal Java > team to bare-bones. They will not be working on the official "Mac OS > X Java VM" any more. As much as many Java folks will dislike this, it > at least makes business sense for Apple to do this. Note that Apple > never took on building their own version of Flash to ship on their > platform, because Adobe saw value in building a Mac version - because > Adobe's target customer was already living in Mac land. Apple had to > build their own JavaVM because at the time, nobody saw fit to make a > Mac version because their desktop market share was tiny. In other > words, it's not totally shocking and out-of-the-blue if you've been > following Apple at all over the last 5 years. Apple doesn't *need* to > make a JavaVM for their business any more, so they're not going to > continue doing it. Like it or not, at least Apple makes intelligent > business decisions - based on *their* business, not yours! > > 2) They put stuff in place (read the whole "new and noteworthy > section") to make 3rd party Java VMs place nice in the system. This, > in my opinion, is a maneuver to invite others to fill the void they > are about to leave. > > 3) If the Mac is an important target for a Java VM (which it certainly > is in my and many others' opinion - at least for development), then > someone (likely Oracle) will need to step up and supply a good up-to- > date Java VM for the Mac. > > 4) Finally, I think this will happen - and I think life will go on as > normal with lots of folks using Macs for Java development - but > they'll be using an up-to-date JavaVM from Oracle or someone like > that. If you squint a little bit, this actually might be a good thing > for Java on the Mac. > > - Joe > > On Oct 20, 11:05 pm, robross <[email protected]> wrote: > > Just in time for the Mac app store announcement? Timing is really > > suspicious, and the App store does not support deprecated > > technologies, like Java! > > > > Mac App Store Review Guidelines > > > > "Apps must contain all language support in a single app bundle (single > > binary multiple language). Apps that spawn processes that continue to > > run after a user has quit the app without user consent will be > > rejected. Apps that use deprecated or optionally installed > > technologies (e.g., Java, [PowerPC code requiring] Rosetta) will be > > rejected. > > > > Crazy! > > > > Crazy! > > > > Is Oracle going to provide the JDK/JRE for Mac OX now? Is OpenJDK7 > > going to implement AWT/Swing/Java2D on top of Cocoa? > > > > Please, someone do something! Don't make me have to use Windows > > machines!! :-() > > > > Source: > > > > http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#releasenotes/Java/JavaSnowLeo... > > > > Rob > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Java Posse" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<javaposse%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
