On Oct 28, 2010, at 9:54 AM, Cédric Beust ♔ wrote: > > > On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 3:01 AM, Reinier Zwitserloot <[email protected]> > wrote: > You're misrepresenting what apple is doing (or misunderstanding). > Apple isn't trying to bash java > > Steve Jobs in 2007: > > “Java’s not worth building in. Nobody uses Java anymore. It’s this big > heavyweight ball and chain.” > > Your other points still hold, though. Apple thinks that Java sucks *and* that > it threatens their business model, hence the current decision to stop > providing it. The decision makes business sense. > > -- > Cédric
On further analysis, it really does *not* make sense. As has been clearly shouted from almost every rooftop in the land, Java Desktop never became a successful toolkit for building & running consumer desktop apps. Even I, who love Swing dearly and spend most of my time writing Swing apps, will agree to this. If that's the case, exactly *what* threat does Java currently pose for the consumer desktop, specifically Apple's desktop? 1. Are they worried Java desktop apps are competing with native Cocoa apps? No, that can't be, as we've just agreed Java is not used to write desktop apps. It's *no* threat in that space. 2. Are they worried that Java *will* become successful on the desktop? If so, isn't that an implicit endorsement that Java is a formidable foe in that space? Which one is it? If it's #1, then they have clearly made a strategic mistake by alienating hundreds of thousands (millions?) of developers who enjoy using Apple hardware for Java development, and were never going to compete with Apple by writing Java desktop apps. If it's #2, then I say all the more reason for the community to create a better native JDK for the Apple platform and kick their butt in the marketplace! Rob -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
