Karsten,

Your experience/decision doesn't appear to be congruent with a large
swath of iOS users that want instant access to Flash video from their
iOS devices ala Skyline.

Frankly, it's very unusual in the business space to see a company
(Apple/Steve Jobs) to demonstrate such disdain for the way customers
want to make use of said company's products. Most companies are
motivated to satisfy their customer base instead of relentlessly
frustrate them. (This whole phenomena is worthy of being a case study
in business school.)

Hmm, I wonder if there would be a way for Skyline to even proxy access
to DRM Flash video sites?

Might be some licensing/legal issues in trying to do that, though...

I recently had an experience this past week-end regarding Apple that
tends to correlate with what their doing to iOS customers regarding
Flash (i.e., go out of the way to frustrate customers).

My son's MacBook had a problem with being unable to mount its
harddisk. I bought a new harddisk, installed and put the original OS
on (Tiger OS X 10.4). I successfully used a data recovery program to
retrieve all his data - so far so good.

I went to run iTunes, which happened to be version 7. I could access
his music files but was unable to connect to the iTunes store. So I
downloaded latest version 10 iTunes client. I went to install and was
promptly told I need to have version 10.5 or greater OS.

This was entirely surprising as Tiger is really not that old of a OS
release and lots of Mac users still run Tiger.

I had to back off and install version 9 of iTunes, which is the last
supported version for Tiger.

This was tremendously surprising as there is no technical reason that
iTunes client could not continue to support Tiger. The network
protocols it relies on are one of the constants of nature, practically
speaking. This is born out that the latest iTunes for Windows
continues to support XP/Vista/Win7. Ironically you can run ten year
old Windows XP and get the latest iTunes but if you're running Tiger
you'll now forever be on iTunes 9.

The next day I go with my other son to purchase a wireless access
point to connect to my Apple Airport base station Extreme (he needed
to get his XBox connected to the Internet). We decide to buy the Apple
Airport Express - thinking by doing this would be the most painless
way to get it connected to my base station Extreme and establish a
wireless access point for the XBox.

The Airport Admin v5.5.1 utility that came on the disk only supports
Mac OS X 10.5 or greater. I only have Tiger OS 10.4 as far as Macs go,
so again I was out of luck. As a Tiger user I'm no longer able to buy
new Apple products and configure them for use with my other Apple
products.

So I switch to my Sony laptop running Windows Vista and download
Airport Admin v5.5.1 for Windows. Ironically, once again Apple is
giving better support to Windows users than it is to its own Mac OS X
users.

Sadly, though, I was never able to get the Airport Express to connect
to my Airport base station Extreme. I have five other wireless
products that are successfully connected to it, including DLink
wireless access point. We gave up, to the Airport Express back and got
a Microsoft XBox 811n wireless adapter, got back home and had the XBox
online in about 10 minutes.

We were both really impressed with how customer friendly Microsoft's
products are relative to Apple's.

Apples stuff is designed for the initial impact. Yet owning their
products over the years can turn into frustration city. They very
quickly slash and burn the past leaving their would-be loyal customers
high and dry.


On Nov 9, 8:20 am, Karsten Silz <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 8 Nov., 19:07, RogerV <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > In the general web browsing I do, when I encounter a site that has
> > embedded video, greater than 90% of the time that video is provided as
> > Flash video.
>
> > Which means if I was using, say, an iPad to do my web browsing,
> > roughly 90% of the video I encounter and want to access, I would not
> > be able to - without a solution such as Skyfire. I can easily see why
>
> Wrong. When you see Flash video on a site doesn't mean that iOS users
> can't get to it.  The iOS mobile Safari detects Youtube videos and
> opens them in the Youtube app.  Two sites I frequently visit (Spiegel
> Online, Germany's biggest news portal, and Gametrailers) show videos
> as H.264 on iOS devices.  I guess the reason why these "dual video
> sites" show you Flash on your PC is that their Flash video players
> show ads and give them analytics results (e.g., how long you watched
> the video and if you skipped any part) - data you don't get when the
> iOS movie player shows an H.264 page.  I think I Apple is extending
> its iAd system to video to at least show ads.
>
> In general, about half of all online video is now available as iOS-
> friendly H.264 (http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/10/27/
> more_than_half_of_online_h_264_videos_are_now_in_ios_friendly_html5.html).
> Especially the iPad is heavily used for surfing and passed - in one
> statistic - all Android devices in web browsing market share after
> three months on the market (http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/ipad-
> blasts-past-android-in-usage-share/8829).  Android has grown rapidly
> since then, but so has iPad, so I think the relationship here probably
> holds up.
>
> That said, I still come across Flash-only video on some sites
> (comingsoon.net); I save such pages to Instapaper.  It would be more
> convenient if I had a Flash Player on my iPhone / iPad that I could
> enable on demand, but this probably will never happen.  The important
> thing is that at least for me (and based on sales numbers, for many
> other users), this isn't a killer criterion (anymore).

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