i wonder if that would make ruby and the like more or less popular On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Reinier Zwitserloot <[email protected]>wrote:
> A separate reply to Cedric's very interesting question of: Which > language would have succeeded if java hadn't. > > At first I'm fairly sure C would have kept most of the now java > programmers, but I rather doubt C would have become mainstream for web > development. Its just spectacularly badly suited to do so. I'm > guessing python would have become larger much faster than it has > today, and PHP would also have been kludged on more. But, who knows? > Maybe the scripting disdain that's lasted so long (well into the > middle 2000s) would have meant someone rolled up a garbage collected C > variant with a standard library set well-suited to building web apps. > > On Dec 4, 8:01 pm, Cédric Beust ♔ <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 7:28 AM, Neil Bartlett <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > I'm *not* surprised that he didn't mention the Date and Calendar APIs. > > > He should have, but I'm not surprised he didn't. I'm also not > > > surprised that he failed to mention primitives and arrays. > > > > Careful with revisionism here. > > > > I think the decision to have primitives is one of the subtle details that > > made Java the success it is today. Back then, performance was a huge deal > > and it took years before Java's speed started being perceived as "good > > enough". With that in mind, using objects for everything would have been > a > > terrible mistake, one that might have turned Java into an interesting > > language that was soon sent back to the dark corners of programming > language > > history. > > > > It's always dangerous to reexamine past decisions with present insight. > > > > A more interesting hypothetical question to me is what language would > have > > emerged if Java hadn't succeeded... > > > > -- > > Cédric > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Java Posse" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<javaposse%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > > -- http://mapsdev.blogspot.com/ Marcelo Takeshi Fukushima -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
