You forgot lisp...  functional Programming is about 30 years old,  it
predates c
On 30 Dec 2010 18:22, "Alexey Zinger" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I predict in 30 years we'll be doing most of the programming in
spreadsheet-like
> visualizations of data structures. Yes, I love me some spreadsheets.
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> Alexey
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> From: ScottHK <[email protected]>
> To: The Java Posse <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thu, December 30, 2010 4:36:24 AM
> Subject: [The Java Posse] programming theory: Quantum physics...to
Java....to
> Scala?
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> Over the past 30 years we have been moving up from Assembly code...to
> Scala.
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> Do programmers need to understand quantum mechanics to program? I
> don't think so, programmers don't need to know assembly either.
>
> In computer science history, each new language development helped us
> do more by forcing us to do less. In the lowest level, 'the heap',
> all data as Global and the only data type is 'byte'. So with assembly
> languages you can do anything.. Procedural languages such as C added
> simple data types and encouraged us to package state changes into
> functions. Object oriented languages encouraged us to limit the
> number of states by chunking data into objects. Ruby and Java helped
> object oriented programming by adding a lot of 'context' to the
> language and cutting back on boiler plate code vs C++.
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> Now 'functional programming' further encourages us to package chunks
> of states that go into and out of functions and reduce immutable
> state.
>
> Is the long run, will we reduce all mutable state accessible by the
> programmer? I'm guessing in the future I think programmers will be
> moving abstract concepts around around in 3d and a Google App engine
> will turn it into gigabytes of assembly code.
>
> What do people think is needed most right now for the next generation
> of languages? All my current programming problems involve dependent
> states...such as keeping track of the sum of a list of orders, and
> doing this with 3 or 4 levels of dependancy. Also working with
> vertical problems, getting a simple function result normally, but
> having some objects reach up much higher in the dependency stack when
> errors occur. Some of the really cool Scala features help out with
> these types of problems, list functions like .foldLeft and .foreach
> and take a layer of complexity out of some problems. I think us
> human programmers can only think efficiently in 2D and the more the
> languages takes out the multi-dimensional complexity out the more we
> can do.
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