On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Kevin Wright <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>
> This is the problem causing Java's excessive stack traces, just exemplified
> by Spring more than most other libraries/frameworks:
> http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2006/03/execution-in-kingdom-of-nouns.html
>
>

I like Steve's articles but could you at least be more specific than quoting
a ten page blog post?


>
> The "best technique" to solve this arguably isn't checked exceptions.  It's
> true alternate return values coupled with a decent implementation of
> closures to pull much of the boilerplate out of those stack traces.
>

We have rebutted this claim of yours many, many times. Your proposal is
completely missing the non local handling aspect of exceptions. I am baffled
why you keep thinking that return values (even alternate ones) are even in
the same league as exceptions when it comes to handling errors.

It's a lesson we learned in the early 90's.

-- 
Cédric

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