You may be overstating the effort/cash required, and understating the benefits.
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 12:24 AM, Steven Herod <[email protected]> wrote: > The opposition to moving beyond 1.4.x would be mainly the cost. > > You have a working application which is stable, you are expending > minimal effort maintaining, and suddenly someone is proposing you > spend effort/cash to give developers a warm fuzzy feeling and the end > user no actual visible benefit. > > Hard to justify. Easier to wait until the app is retired. > > On May 30, 9:57 pm, Ricky Clarkson <[email protected]> wrote: >> The semantics are pretty clear, as you get compile errors when you get >> things wrong. >> >> Java developers *were* used to unsafe casts. I'm regularly in ##java >> on freenode IRC and see fewer and fewer people trying to use untyped >> collections. It still happens, though mainly by accident. >> >> I've seen some new Java code using untyped Vectors and Hashtables >> recently, but a) the [ir]responsible developers just left b) that >> would have happened no matter what Java had done short of removing >> Vector and Hashtable. >> >> -- >> Skype: ricky_clarkson >> UK phone (forwards to Skype): 0161 408 5260 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 1:13 AM, Casper Bang <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> It's quite elegant that in general if I update a dependency and that >> >> dependency has switched from raw types to generics, I generally have >> >> nothing to do. With the .NET approach I would have to marshal between >> >> old and new collection types constantly. >> >> > Yes but at least the semantics would be clear up front right there in >> > the type-system and you'd avoid various pitfalls (Java developers are >> > used to unsafe casts and unsafe array variance) as well as pave the >> > way for a deprecation/migration strategy. Sometimes something must die >> > in order to leave the way for something new, or all we get are zombies. >> >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> > "The Java Posse" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > [email protected]. >> > For more options, visit this group >> > athttp://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Java Posse" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
