Jan, I am afraid that going from discarding Vaadin because of its un- ability to manage 100k points on the server to ending up excited about a sketching tool that produces PDF, JPG or proprietary XML does not testify of a clear decision-making path :-)
Let's start from the assumption that there is a customer who must be shown a GUI to accept or reject. If the GUI must be more than a plain collection of form controls (like that shown in http://code.google.com/javadevtools/wbpro/userinterface/design_view.html) my opinion is that the customer will be able to decide only in front of some rich graphics made with whatever drawing tool. But the real implementation job starts afterwards. From scratch. I'd love to see a generic progression GUI sketching --> GUI design --> GUI implementation building up on a shared repository of code and leading to a truly complex application, but I haven't yet seen it. And I believe I never will: besides the huge technical complexity of the final product, there are many different actors (customers, graphic designers, programmers...) with different mindsets and skills, used to different applications to express their views and needs about the final product. Iterations with the customer are welcome; the sooner he has a working prototype to play with, the better it is; but every not-trivial change to the GUI will require again the preparation of rich graphics for the customer to approve, and again some implementation work will start from scratch. Shortening the lines between graphic designers and developers: that's where companies make or lose money. Shortening those lines means to me spreading HTML+CSS knowledge throughout the staff rather than looking for the silver bullet that draws and compiles to JS fastest. My 5c. Have a nice day, Marco On Nov 3, 9:43 am, Jan Goyvaerts <[email protected]> wrote: > Found Balsamiq - that looks good indeed. Something I can quickly throw a > sketch together without drawing every line and shadow. > > AND works on Linux. ;-) > > Thanks !!!! :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
