Xtend, incidentally, can be built with ant apparently. They're working on a 
howto.
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From: Kevin Wright <[email protected]>
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Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 17:07:49 
To: <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Yet another JVM lang: Extend

On 7 November 2011 16:41, Blazej Bucko <[email protected]> wrote:

> I don't understand one thing: Why, when new statically typed language
> with closures comes up, scala community (I assume that Simon is scala
> enthusiast :)) calls it "half assed scala imitation"? I don't see this
> kind of attitude from Groovy community.
>

Because Groovy had significantly different goals, James wrote it to be a
lightweight glue & scripting language that would support core Java work,
not something that could realistically be considered a replacement or used
anywhere that performance was at all important.



> Is scala one and only language and we must shoot everything else?
> Scala is great and all, but there are other great languages. Maybe
> Xtend will be better. Or at least have better tools :)
>
>

"Tooling" means a great deal more than how friendly the Eclipse plugin is...

If I have to fire up half of the eclipse IDE in my Continuous
Integration/Deployment server just to build the thing, and if I can't build
it at the command line, and if I can't use Maven/Rake/Gradle/SBT/whatever
with it, then I'm afraid I'm going to have to take any claims of "better
tooling" with a particularly large grain of salt.





> Regards,
>     Blazej Bucko
>
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Simon Ochsenreither
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > for(month <- year2011)
> >   yetAnotherHalfAssedScalaImitation += 1
> >
> > :-)
> >
> >
>

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