=) I hope that wasn't taken the wrong way - Tor wispering "use netbeans" at
the end of a couple episodes always makes me smile

On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 5:23 AM, Carl Jokl <[email protected]> wrote:

> <wisper>I already use netbeans. Eclipse has some graphical problems on
> my (latest) version of Ubuntu Linux presumably due to SWT not being
> kept up to date properly</wisper>
>
> On Jan 19, 10:00 am, Steven Siebert <[email protected]> wrote:
> > You might find this approach interesting:
> >
> > http://jvi.sourceforge.net/
> >
> > <wisper>use netbeans</wisper>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 4:35 AM, Carl Jokl <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > I wanted to ask whether anyone has experience of the capabilities of
> > > command line IDEs? I ask because I have not really tried doing any
> > > development in anger from the Linux / Unix command line. I have only
> > > really tweaked configuration files with vi and that is about it.
> >
> > > I ask because I have a co-worker who has been rather condescending
> > > about the use of any GUI tools. He seems determined never to use them
> > > and thinks he can do everything more efficiently from the command
> > > line. I would suppose it is harder given he is an Objective-C
> > > developer on Linux. I don't think the options for Objective-C tools
> > > and IDEs are that great to begin with unless you are on the Mac. I
> > > tried a GNUStep IDE on Ubuntu called ProjectCenter. On the latest
> > > Ubuntu I found the UI so buggy and flaky that the whole IDE is frankly
> > > unusable. I have come back to it more than once and each time given up
> > > because I can't work it (often through stupid things like mouse clicks
> > > not being responded to or responding in the wrong place).
> >
> > > To be honest I know if someone holds such an extreme anti GUI tools
> > > opinion and is determined not to use them then it is pointless arguing
> > > with someone like that because I don't think they are really prepared
> > > to be convinced anyway.
> >
> > > It did make me curious though as to what kind of development power is
> > > available from command line editors like Emacs. I know that key
> > > features I like in IDE's is the ability to hyperlink through to a
> > > method declaration / class declaration or where a variable is
> > > declared. Also finding the usages of a method is really valuable to me
> > > as well as being able to apply various forms of refactoring. In theory
> > > a command like editor could support some or all of that. However I
> > > don't know what features are actually currently available.
> >
> > > Just curious.
> >
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