Ditto. Stopped writing C++ even longer ago and have no desire to learn Obj-C. And with Java I'm way more productive than I ever was back then. I know of a number of very large websites that have been ported to Java. You get a lot when you use the language. Good libraries and tools come to mind.
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 6:41 PM, Fabrizio Giudici < [email protected]> wrote: > On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 22:13:53 +0200, phil swenson <[email protected]> > wrote: > > This guy claims: >> >> "Unfortunately, Java's designers didn't seem to value CPU time at all. >> The language has a nasty reputation for sluggish interfaces, and its >> execution speed drags well behind C++'s. Pointer aliasing or not we >> are many generations of optimisers away from languages such as Java >> overtaking C++ so if you need fast code C/C++ is the obvious choice." >> >> article here: >> http://slidetocode.com/2012/**04/14/objective-c/<http://slidetocode.com/2012/04/14/objective-c/> >> >> discussion here: >> http://news.ycombinator.com/**item?id=3840861<http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3840861> >> >> > > I posted another comment. For your reference, it's below. > > > > > "Unfortunately, Java's designers didn't seem to value CPU time at all. " > > Well, it's obvious that people think of (Apple) fanboism when they read > such misinformation; apart from the fact that there's no point in writing > such statements without citing some numbers or real cases. > > I can tell you that I've written my last line of C++ exactly ten years > ago. In these ten years I've designed and implemented a good deal of > industrial software in different segments and never experienced performance > problems. Already in 2004, which is ages ago, I designed and implemented a > near real time system for distributing telemetry data in F1 racing - among > others, Renault won two championships running that system. It was Java 1.4 > and it worked pretty well. The specs were pretty demanding. I recall people > wondering whether Java was up to the requisites (at the time it was a > reasonable doubt, not today). > > I am just lucky as I can mention a publicly known project, but there are > tons of people around who daily experience excellent performance with Java > and don't feel any desire to go back to C/C++. You'd just attend a couple > of Java conferences (or at least read the slides) before publishing > uninformed statements. > > > -- > Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager > Tidalwave s.a.s. - "We make Java work. Everywhere." > [email protected] > http://tidalwave.it - http://fabriziogiudici.it > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Java Posse" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to javaposse+unsubscribe@** > googlegroups.com <javaposse%[email protected]>. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** > group/javaposse?hl=en <http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en>. > > -- Robert Casto www.robertcasto.com www.sellerstoolbox.com www.lakotaeastbands.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
