I really enjoyed the conversation regarding build tools...

I have been using Maven for a number of years now, and I have found that it 
is the build tool of choice for me.  I am a big fan of the declarative 
style of Maven as opposed to the imperative style of Ant.  Instead of 
focusing on tasks like "move this file here, and copy these resources 
there, and compile this code here and run this test there", it just works - 
and that is what I look for in a build tool.  Something that just works and 
doesn't get in the way.

I don't have any experience with Gradle, but I have lived through the 
horror days of Ant, and I will definitely not go back to that.  Now, I have 
to admit that there has been a time or two when I have had to resort to the 
Maven ant plugin in order to do something very unique (like delete the 
local database prior to running tests), but beyond that, I have been using 
a pure Maven approach and have found that it meets all of my needs.

Perhaps it would be worth bringing on someone from Sonatype in order to 
discuss Maven as a build tool in Java projects.  I would imagine that it 
would prove to be a very interesting conversation.

Happy Coding.
Carlus

On Saturday, July 21, 2012 10:47:23 PM UTC-4, Jason Nerothin wrote:
>
> Great podcast guys. 
>
> Almost 45 minutes on build tools. I think I must have missed something 
> that went unstated: Why was maven (more or less) ignored? Has the world 
> just agreed that it's too [insert something I'm missing here] to even make 
> the discussion?
>
> I've become something of an expert lately. Enough so that I'm beginning to 
> have my doubts. But I didn't hear any Really Good Alternatives.
>
> JPN
>

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