On Thu, 04 Oct 2012 11:39:19 +0200, Casper Bang <[email protected]>
wrote:
As flawed as it is, I guess I'd have to invoke the Tiobe index proof:
http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html
However, what I was was based more on my own experiences in the industry
than Tiobe. Java is declining less thanks to Android (yay), the Java
numbers would certainly be lower without Google around.
Just read Tiobe yesterday before my posts and if you look at the graphs,
C# trends in the past year is controversial. After a peak, it has gone
down and on a year average it seems flat since 2011. Too bad data aren't
available in numeric format, I'd like to run some moving average (well,
too bad that Tiobe doesn't understand the value of moving averages).
I still have doubts that Tiobe is including Android in Java. The rate of
decline of Java on a multi-year average is pretty stable and if it
included a ramp up of Android this meant that there should have been a
faster Java decline started exactly at the same time of the introduction
of Android (first coincidence) and with an increase of the slope exactly
of the same magnitude of Android (second coincidence). Also, read here:
http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/tpci_definition.htm
"The language should have an own entry on Wikipedia and it should clearly
state that it concerns a programming language. This is the reason why
(Ruby on) Rails, Excel, Android, Boost, Cocoa, ASP and AJAX are not
considered programming languages for the index."
I think that most job announces and google-related searches about Android
use the Android word, and not Java. That's the reason I think Tiobe could
be missing them.
Also consider that tags at StackOverflow (ok, they measure a different
thing) see C# 1st and Java 2nd; if you sum the Android tag frequency to
Java tag frequency, Java gets first:
http://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/165934/why-is-there-a-large-discrepancy-between-the-stackoverflow-tag-frequency-and-the
Just a hint that Android is not "included" in Java. Of course, these are
very vague considerations... It's frustrating not having a reliable source.
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