Simon is german so his people are used to insulting and doing much worse
things to people.
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 4:33 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

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>    - Episode 404... <#13c64655053a8d6c_group_thread_0> [25 Updates]
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>   Episode 404...<http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse/t/5611d78e11f465b4>
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>    Casper Bang <[email protected]> Jan 22 01:27AM -0800
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>    > I spend almost £130 a month on combined electricity plus gas.
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>    Remember, in north America energy prices are roughly 3-6 times lower
>    than
>    those of northern Europe. Also take comfort in the fact that we don't
>    require air conditioning, as it typically cost 2 times as much energy
>    cooling down compared to heating up.
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>    Rakesh <[email protected]> Jan 22 10:33AM
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>    even then he said he spends tens of dollars on heating when its 30
>    below....how?
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>    Thomas Matthijs <[email protected]> Jan 22 11:43AM +0100
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>    > even then he said he spends tens of dollars on heating when its 30
>    > below....how?
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>    Tons of clean scala builds
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>    Casper Bang <[email protected]> Jan 22 06:15AM -0800
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>    On Tuesday, January 22, 2013 11:33:50 AM UTC+1, rakesh mailgroups
>    wrote:
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>    > even then he said he spends tens of dollars on heating when its 30
>    > below....how?
>
>    In the US they're still stuck with the legacy imperial system, so when
>    you
>    hear them say "down to 30" that would be plus degrees Fahrenheit, not
>    -30
>    metric SI unit of Celsius (30F = -1c).
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>    Rakesh <[email protected]> Jan 22 02:25PM
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>    God damn Dick!! You've gone native!
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>    Ricky Clarkson <[email protected]> Jan 22 11:25AM -0300
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>    30 below would mean 30 degrees lower than 0 (either -30F or -30C). You
>    could not use 30 below to mean 30F. Down to 30 would likely mean 30F
>    though unless you're somewhere where it's summer or equatorial.
>
>    The American system is actually called the American system, and differs
>    from the imperial system. A US pint is 473ml and a UK pint is 568ml.
>    Other measurements vary too but that's the one that hits home.
>
>    Fahrenheit is named after Daniel Gabriel Fahrenheit and is not actually
>    imperial or American. He lived all his life in continental (i.e., not
>    the
>    UK) Europe.
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>    Ricky Clarkson <[email protected]> Jan 22 11:31AM -0300
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>    Dick has possibly not exactly gone native, but recalled his younger
>    years.
>    While nowadays in the UK the weather forecasts are in Celsius only, in
>    the
>    1980s and early 1990s they were in Fahrenheit or both, and the older
>    generation continue to think in Fahrenheit.
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>    "Fabrizio Giudici" <[email protected]> Jan 22 03:36PM
>    +0100
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>    On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 15:25:12 +0100, Rakesh <[email protected]>
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>    wrote:
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>    > God damn Dick!! You've gone native!
>
>    JNI?
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>    --
>    Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect @ Tidalwave s.a.s.
>    "We make Java work. Everywhere."
>    http://tidalwave.it/fabrizio/blog - [email protected]
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>    Robert Casto <[email protected]> Jan 22 09:37AM -0500
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>    Probably going to take forever to get everyone to use
>    Kelvin's<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelvin>
>    .
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>    --
>    Robert Casto
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>    Casper Bang <[email protected]> Jan 22 06:41AM -0800
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>    On Tuesday, January 22, 2013 3:31:48 PM UTC+1, Ricky Clarkson wrote:
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>    > Dick has possibly not exactly gone native, but recalled his younger
>    years.
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>    It was Chet though who said "...down to 30 degrees outside...", nobody
>    said
>    "30 below". That's a pretty large energy margin right there.
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>    > While nowadays in the UK the weather forecasts are in Celsius only,
>    in the
>    > 1980s and early 1990s they were in Fahrenheit or both, and the older
>    > generation continue to think in Fahrenheit.
>
>    Yeah I realize some countries are slow to adopt the SI units. In
>    Canada
>    it's a weird mix, you buy gas by the liter but coke by ½ gallon;
>    measure
>    air temperature in Celsius but water temperature in Fahrenheit etc.
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>    Ricky Clarkson <[email protected]> Jan 22 01:50PM -0300
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>    And in France, you measure people in metres, and monitors in inches,
>    if I'm
>    not mistaken.
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>    "Fabrizio Giudici" <[email protected]> Jan 22 06:04PM
>    +0100
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>    On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 17:50:34 +0100, Ricky Clarkson
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>    > And in France, you measure people in metres, and monitors in inches,
>    if
>    > I'm
>    > not mistaken.
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>    I think monitors are measured in inches in the whole Europe, or at
>    least
>    great part of. Also many screw threads are measures in inches.
>
>    --
>    Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect @ Tidalwave s.a.s.
>    "We make Java work. Everywhere."
>    http://tidalwave.it/fabrizio/blog - [email protected]
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>    Kevin Wright <[email protected]> Jan 22 05:27PM
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>    There's hope.. At least one place in the US is most definitely metric.
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>    Not once have I seen an episode of E.R. where the doctor cries:
>    "one third of a fluid ounce of epinephrine, stat!"
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>    "Cédric Beust ♔" <[email protected]> Jan 22 09:33AM -0800
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>    > There's hope.. At least one place in the US is most definitely
>    metric.
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>    > Not once have I seen an episode of E.R. where the doctor cries:
>    > "one third of a fluid ounce of epinephrine, stat!"
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>    Probably because the imperial/American system fails at both small and
>    large
>    scales. It fails in a lot of other places too, obviously :-)
>
>    --
>    Cédric
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>    Simon Ochsenreither <[email protected]> Jan 22 11:27AM
>    -0800
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>    I adopted the term “hillbilly units” as an umbrella term for all these
>    different kinds of measurement units which are normally used by a
>    combination of the US and another random third-world country, and it
>    has
>    made it considerably easier in those situations where one wants to
>    refer to
>    all those measurements not directly derived from the SI units, but
>    where
>    one doesn't actually care about which non-standard system it is
>    exactly.
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>    Robert Casto <[email protected]> Jan 22 02:33PM -0500
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>    Hopefully you understand that the word "hillbilly" can be offensive to
>    people?
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>    On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Simon Ochsenreither <
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>    --
>    Robert Casto
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>    Jess Holle <[email protected]> Jan 22 01:45PM -0600
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>    The politically correct term might be "legacy" units, though
>    antiquated,
>    medieval, pre-industrial, and byzantine all seem more accurate.
>
>    I live in the US and am thus stuck with such units -- whatever one
>    calls
>    them. When in engineering school I found that a decent HP calculator
>    made crazy units pretty much immaterial, though. Unfortunately it's my
>    understanding that HP pretty much lost the high-end calculator market
>    since I moved on into software -- or have I heard wrong? [My HP 48SX
>    still works pretty nicely over 20 years later :-)]
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>    On 1/22/2013 1:33 PM, Robert Casto wrote:
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>    Simon Ochsenreither <[email protected]> Jan 22 11:53AM
>    -0800
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>    > Hopefully you understand that the word "hillbilly" can be offensive
>    to
>    > people?
>
>    Yes, that's intentional.
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>    Robert Casto <[email protected]> Jan 22 03:12PM -0500
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>    Good luck getting anyone to see things your way then.
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>    On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Simon Ochsenreither <
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>    --
>    Robert Casto
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>    Ricky Clarkson <[email protected]> Jan 22 05:24PM -0300
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>    IncompatibleHumourException. Simon isn't actually trying to offend
>    hillbillies, rednecks, trailer trash or that man stood outside your
>    house
>    drinking Bud out of a can, but instead trying to categorise these
>    units in
>    such a way that he can dismiss them in one fell swoop without having to
>    think too much about the origin of each. I'd say "non-SI units" but
>    then
>    I'm not looking for a soundbite.
>
>    When my colleagues say "es un plan chino" (it's a Chinese plan) they
>    mean
>    the plan is ill thought out and aren't really thinking about how bad or
>    good Chinese people may be at planning. Over time it'd probably be
>    better
>    if they stopped using the term, but it's hardly going to actually
>    offend
>    anybody unless they use it constantly whenever a Chinese person makes
>    plans.
>
>    Similarly, virtually every joke that starts with an Englishman, an
>    Irishman
>    and a Scotsman ends up insulting at least one of those great nations,
>    or
>    the Irish, but nobody really gets offended.
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>    Josh Berry <[email protected]> Jan 22 03:24PM -0500
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>    I am highly amused to see that this includes computer science at
>    large, as
>    well. A quick googling shows we evidently should all switch to
>    kibibytes/etc.
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>    On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Simon Ochsenreither <
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>    "Fabrizio Giudici" <[email protected]> Jan 22 09:29PM
>    +0100
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>    On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 21:12:32 +0100, Robert Casto <
>    [email protected]>
>    wrote:
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>    > Good luck getting anyone to see things your way then.
>
>    Boys, I've understood just now the title of the old sitcom "The
>    Beverly
>    Hillbillies" - it was broadcast here when I was a boy and there were
>    no
>    such terms on my english vocabulary (and no internet, of course, and
>    no
>    american friends to ask to).
>
>
>    --
>    Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect @ Tidalwave s.a.s.
>    "We make Java work. Everywhere."
>    http://tidalwave.it/fabrizio/blog - [email protected]
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>    "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Jan 22 03:36PM -0500
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>    Isn't it marvelous that they were able to make so much humor from a
>    family that uses the wrong system of measurements?
>
>    Sent from my mobile.
>    (Typos courtesy of swype)
>
>    ----- Reply message -----
>    From: "Fabrizio Giudici" <[email protected]>
>    Date: Tue, Jan 22, 2013 3:29 pm
>    Subject: [The Java Posse] Episode 404...
>    To: "javaposse" <[email protected]>, "Robert Casto" <
>    [email protected]>
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>    On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 21:12:32 +0100, Robert Casto <
>    [email protected]>
>    wrote:
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>    > Good luck getting anyone to see things your way then.
>
>    Boys, I've understood just now the title of the old sitcom "The
>    Beverly
>    Hillbillies" - it was broadcast here when I was a boy and there were
>    no
>    such terms on my english vocabulary (and no internet, of course, and
>    no
>    american friends to ask to).
>
>
>    --
>    Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect @ Tidalwave s.a.s.
>    "We make Java work. Everywhere."
>    http://tidalwave.it/fabrizio/blog - [email protected]
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>    Simon Ochsenreither <[email protected]> Jan 22 01:56PM
>    -0800
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>    > Good luck getting anyone to see things your way then.
>
>    Anyone == 6,621¹ billion people?
>    Looks good to me. :-)
>
>    ¹ World - (US + Burma + Liberia)
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>    "Cédric Beust ♔" <[email protected]> Jan 22 02:02PM -0800
>
>    Insulting a minority is still insulting.
>
>
>    --
>    Cédric
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>    On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Simon Ochsenreither <
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