Reiner, How would you qualify Clay's posting containing these argument fragments?
- *This is the most childish, baseless attack I've ever read.* - *This is garbage* - *All attack and insults and Java sucks* - *This is just hateful trolling of the laziest and worst kind.* - *a big flaming pile of dung* - *hateful insults* - *you are trolling in the worst, laziest, and most disgusting way* - *deeply embarrassed for posting this kind of thing* Is it constructive critisism? Insulting the poster (ad hominem) for insulting Java 8 Lambda implentation. A case of the pot calling the kettle black. /Morten On 12 March 2013 12:28, Reinier Zwitserloot <[email protected]> wrote: > If you link to wikipedia pages, do you actually read them? > > That wasn't an ad hominem attack. Ad hominem is: "His argument is wrong > because he has an ugly face". > > > On Saturday, March 2, 2013 9:36:38 AM UTC+1, morten hattesen wrote: >> >> Dear Clay, I couldn't help laughing, when I read your post. >> >> This is clearly the most clear example of the pot calling the kettle >> black <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_pot_calling_the_kettle_black> I >> have ever seen. >> >> Your post contains nothing, but ad >> hominem<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem>attacks. Nothing to counter >> the substance of the argument. It is, in fact, >> completely off topic. >> >> I guess you havn't had a good day, and just felt like letting out a some >> steam ;) >> >> On Thursday, February 28, 2013 7:13:28 AM UTC+1, clay wrote: >>> >>> "A Java™ Parallel Calamity"!?!? >>> >>> *This is the most childish, baseless attack I've ever read.* >>> >>> If you are going to attack this technology for performance, you need >>> some kind of benchmarks to even begin to look like a serious criticism and >>> not just childish insults without any point. >>> >>> When JDK7 launched: I did some benchmarks of my own: I implemented a >>> simple quick sort in serial, one with a simple thread pool with locked data >>> queues, one with a lockless data queues (using Atomic check-and-set ops), >>> and a fork-join implementation. The results were slightly hard to >>> interpret. For small volumes of data, serial worked the fastest. Locked >>> data queues were always slow. My custom lockless data queues worked about >>> as fast as JDK7 fork/join in the higher volume cases. >>> >>> *This is garbage. All attack and insults and Java sucks, .NET rules, >>> and nothing to back it up with.* >>> >>> I am critical of Java 8 (and Guava) for omitting map and flatMap from >>> Optional. I am critical of the Java language for other things, but I have >>> actual specific points with some kind of reason and evidence. *This is >>> just hateful trolling of the laziest and worst kind.* >>> >>> Cedric, no *he shouldn't submit this to lambda-dev*. Anyone can write >>> Java is *a big flaming pile of dung* and send it, but they shouldn't. >>> Thoughtful negativity is ok. *Ranting crazy hateful insults* are not. >>> If you have some better ideas, or if you think .NET has some better ideas, >>> you should start with some benchmarks or something close so that we can >>> rule out* this kind of utter crap*. I have benchmarked fork/join as I >>> said and it did reasonably well. Even Typesafe uses JDK fork/join under the >>> hood for some Scala/Akka stuff and I suspect they chose it for a reason. >>> >>> Edward and Casper, *you are trolling in the worst, laziest, and most >>> disgusting way*. You should be *deeply embarrassed for posting this >>> kind of thing.* I don't see *an ounce of legitimate complaint* and >>> nothing beyond *Java sucks, .NET rules*. >>> >>> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "Java Posse" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/javaposse/7_oDA6L0Clo/unsubscribe?hl=en. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Java Posse" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
