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-----Original Message-----
From: Karim Lakhani
Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2017 7:58 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder
I'm stun that these people know how to join a list but not able
to remove themselves!
I give full marks for the list manager!
EMAIL: [email protected]
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from being present now; and if the past cannot prevent you
from being present now, what power does it have?
- [Ulrich Leonard] Eckhart Tolle (1948-)
-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Amigos Welfare Trust
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 5:51 AM
To: Jaws Users
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder
Dear Moderator, we would like you to unsubscribe us from this
mail service
On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 5:46 PM, Moderator
<[email protected]> wrote:
Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been
created
for The purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for
Windows
screen reader Program.
So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as
asking about
what software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them
work
even better with scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth.
Another
example could be requesting information on how to do something
in
Microsoft Word, which as we all know works very well with JAWS,
but
you need to know how to do a certain task or want to learn a
way to
accomplish it more efficiently.
Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the
list for
exact instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a
major
reason. It creates a dependency situation even if you don't
realize it
does. The ideal place I am hoping the list will arrive at some
day is
that everybody no matter how new they might happen to be with
JAWS or
computers will have the confidence to try things on their own,
and yet
feel if they get stuck the list will be there to help put them
back on
track. Trust me when I say that help is quicker to arrive for
somebody
who is well known to ask for it last than first. So try it
yourself
first whatever it is. If you get stuck then let the list know
what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post
asking
if there is a software package that does a specific task and
works
well with JAWS is perfectly fine.
The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be
polite
and Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting,
and no
bashing of Freedom Scientific on here at all. If you have a
problem
with them then take it up with Freedom Scientific directly.
Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as
possible.
Signatures and tag lines should not be more than a couple of
sentences, three or four at the most. If you wish to include a
tag
line, don't make another message of it. Placing anything else
in there
simply increases the bandwidth required to handle the posted
message
and make it more work for a person who wishes to follow the
given
thread back to review previous messages, as they have to plow
down
past an overly long signature. Also please place your message
above
your signature line so as not to force people to read it before
they get to your message.
Also any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS
should
not be posted to the list prior to receiving moderator
approval.
Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list.
This
is done for your protection. The message list might state that
there
is an attachment but in fact Mailman does remove them.
When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be
descriptive in the subject line as to the purpose of the
message. Many
of us simply delete messages from people we don't know. At the
present
time there are over 650 subscribers to this list, so we can't
possibly
know everybody on here.
Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the
guidelines, then post it accordingly. Don't contact the
management
team with questions that are more appropriate for the list
itself.
Your question may or may not receive an answer for a number of
reasons.
Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content
contained in
the footer message that accompanies every message posted to the
list.
Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email
address
and you may receive an email from the server asking you to
reactivate your account.
Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and
follow
the directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after
receiving a number of such messages then the server will remove
your
email address automatically.
The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden,
along with
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. This is not a
high
tech swap shop or anything of that nature at all. This means
that
goods and or services will not be bought or sold using this
forum. If
you know a given subject is off topic then don't post it.
Simply
placing off topic in the subject line does not make it all
right.
Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should only post in
the
following manner:
Using the TO: field with only one list address. The reason for
this is
that in cases where people setup their message rules to go by
the to:
field often times such rules get fouled up and in effect do not
work
properly. Also cross posting might allow you to reach many
lists at
the same time but the fact is such a post might not be on topic
for
each and every list. This practice does nothing but clutter up
such
lists with unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the
list
moderators.
The SUBJECT: field should be short and to the point without
including
any member names.
Please do not reply to a posted question simply to say you
don't know
the answer. All that does is create more traffic on an already
very
busy list for no reason at all.
Lastly please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips,
or pleas
to help dying kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.
Forwarded messages and attachments are not permitted. If you
have an
article or message of interest which relates to the
Nature of this list send it to the list owner and if it is
appropriate, it will be posted to the list. Additionally if you
want
to make an announcement about another list send it to the list
owner
for consideration. Do not post it to the list before obtaining
approval.
No auto responders are to be used on this list! Those who use
auto
responders for vacations and so forth must make sure that this
list is
not included. Any person who sends an auto response message
will be removed!
My hope is that this list will always be a place where
everybody no
matter what their particular skill level can feel safe to ask
any
question at all within the guidelines that I have set forth. It
is my
experience that such rules of conduct are important to keep
good people on the list.
David Ferrin- List Owner
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