Jared,
Just because it doesn't pick up anything doesn't necessarily mean it is a
problem.
I can assure you, you can find other anti-virus programs that will pick up
lots of things -- the problem is, they pick up a lot of "false positives,"
meaning that you're needlessly flagging things as problems that aren't.
Recall a few years ago, when one of the major commercial AV programs, I
can't remember which one, was disabling one of the other screen-readers
because it flagged one of its components as pernicious.
So, I maintain, as do others, that Windows Defender, or MSSE, is fine along
with running periodic scans with an off-line program. Personally, I use
Sophos Virus Removal tool.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jared Rimer" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question
Hello Steve,
I want to get away from MSE because it doesn't seem to pick up anything,
even if I don't download anything. Once it picked up a file as temp files
and said it was something, but most of the time it says nothing. I'm on
windows 7 64 bit, and was looking for something else. I've used Trend
Micro's house call tool which does scanning and updating of its engine
through the download, but it seems to be only doing one drive. MSE does my
whole machine, but I was curious if there was something else out there
besides MSE that would be more reliable. I haven't made any changes yet,
someone said I aught to install it and see, but now i'm not sure. Its sad
that nobody is accessible anymore, I do practice good web habits, have
read up and listen to security podcasts, and I am careful, but with the
threats today, something is always needed and was looking for something
that would be a bit better than my experience lately with MSE. Thanks for
your thoughts.
On 6/4/2017 09:07, Steve wrote:
Sophos isn't real accessible; you're best bet is to use Windows Defender
a.k.a. Microsoft Security Essentials in earlier versions of Windows
before Windows 10. Then, as a backup, use an off-line scanner to
periodically run a double-check on your system along with practicing good
web habits i.e. avoiding peer-to-peer sites, the dark web, and opening
unknown email attachments or links.
I use the Sophos Virus Removal tool, which is pretty accessible. You may
need to use the Jaws Convenient OCR to update the scanning engine if you
haven't used it in the past month, and you might have to also use that to
initiate a scan. But, at least the results are viewable and since it
isn't always running, you don't need to try to configure it to play nice
with certain sites or programs. That's why I prefer Windows Defender.
Steve
----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Fairhurst" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 11:54 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question
I asked about this earlier and received no response. I couldn't read
anything on the home screen with Window-Eyes. With JAWS, all I can read
is a number of graphics labeled with numbers. Labeling these would
either require sighted assistance or a lot of trial and error. I too
would like serious help reading Sophos with JAWS. By the way, NVDA did a
little better, but it was not perfect.
-----Original Message----- From: Jared Rimer
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 9:02 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question
OK,
I'm consoled with a couple of people, and Sophos is the vote recommended
to me. Is there anything i need to keep in mind on using this with
Jaws?
On 5/31/2017 21:53, Thomas N. Chan wrote:
The url is http://www.pandasecurity.com/
I used to use the paid version a while ago , its simple and accessible.
That's at least 10 years or so ago.
But their free one should be alright as I believe its cloud driven.
But I highly recommend sophos.
https://home.sophos.com/?cmp=70130000001xLlGAAU&utm_source=adwords&utm_mediu
m=cpc&utm_campaign=GB-EN-SMS-Brand-Search&utm_content=search&utm_term=sophos
they also have a free version. The business and enterprise protection
from
them are just state of the art. I set them up in company network like
the
UTM, endpoint. I just only found out that they have the free version
for
home, so you should try them.
--------------------
regards
Thomas N. Chan
-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:[email protected]]
On
Behalf Of Jared Rimer
Sent: Thursday, 1 June 2017 9:37 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question
I think I've heard of the software, but not too familiar with it. Do
you have a link?
On 5/31/2017 14:18, Aran_A wrote:
Hello,
I am using Panda, the free version of Panda.
In some cases to improve the accessibility, I use the OCR option of
JAWS
and then I can read the screen, and while I am using the OCR, I can
use
the tab to go from option to option.
I wish you success.
Aran
-----Original Message----- From: Jared Rimer
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 10:38 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question
So, I saw a post on twitter, and it is talking about antivirus. Part
of
the page says:
The easiest way to ensure that your antivirus software is working is
to
use the EICAR test file.
The EICAR test file is a virus simulator developed by the European
Institute for Computer Antivirus Research and
Computer Antivirus Research Organization.
To create an EICAR test file, copy and paste the following line into a
blank file using a text editor such as Notepad:"
The URL to the full post is at:
https://webtecsrilanka.com/2017/02/18/how-to-tell-if-your-antivirus-is-worki
ng/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
for your review. When i went to send the original message intending
to
keep things in tact, the outbound picked it up as harmful which means
it
worked, but MSE never picked it up nor what I've written below. A bit
concerning.
I did this, and found that microsoft security essentials leaves it.
I got concerned when I knowingly saved a file as I wanted to see if it
would pick up the file. I left it for awhile and saved it on one of
my
drives. I submitted it using I believe it was av test or a site that
I
found that allowed me to see what antivirus picked this particular
file
I had up. MSE never picked it up. Now that I'm a Jaws user, what
antivirus besides MSE would work with Jaws?
I've got Windows 7, 64 bit. I don't think MSE is doing the trick
anymore if a file can go undetected for that long, and it never got
flagged for review. It was a zip, with an executable in it, which i
knew was dangerous, but I save them at times to see if the thing is
working and picks them up.
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