You can indeed. But when I tried this, the results were far from "professional" 
standard. Of course this would always depend on the document in question, but 
still. Not sure if it's really been improved that much in the 2018 beta, but 
even Freedom scientific maintained that convenient oCR is no substitute for 
your  commercial OCR package.



-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Valiant8086
Sent: September 5, 2017 12:24 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 and Open Book

Hi.

Unless I'm not thinking straight, you can indeed recognize secure graphic pdf 
files with JAWS. You need open it in Adobe Acrobat Reader first, then once it's 
loaded and you're focused on the document that you can't read, insert+space, o, 
d. That'll scan the pdf right out of Acrobat and present it in the JAWS virtual 
viewer. You aren't able to use the recognize option on the pdf file from file 
explorer as you apparently are already aware on secure pdfs, so opening it in 
Acrobat Reader first then running the OCR on it from there is the solution.

Your point still has merit though because if you already have Open book, then 
you don't need Acrobat Reader installed - just context key on it and print and 
pick the freedom printer. Can you even print from file explorer? Because if 
not, you still have to open the pdf in Acrobat first to hit print, and you 
might as well just have JAWS recognize it then.

It's fun having enough options to do this to have amunition for a discussion on 
it.


Cheers:
Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates 
"We make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community - 
http://valiantGalaxy.com";

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On 9/4/2017 2:08 PM, Jim Pursley wrote:
> Agree. Open Book carries with it a handy "Freedom printer" which is 
> able to open a secure graphically sent pdf so that I might read it.
> Nothing else works, not even JAWS OCR.  I suppose that I could print 
> to my HP printer, too, but I'd be using quite a bit of paper and would 
> need to physically  scan each page.  So, Open Book is my buddy.
>
>
>
> On 9/4/2017 1:31 PM, Valiant8086 wrote:
>> Hi.
>>
>> According to Erik on the latest episode of the FSCast podcast, Open 
>> book is still relevant. It gives you the 3 OCR engines in one package 
>> for better accuracy, an easy to use self voiced interface, ability to 
>> edit recognized content and a whole host of extra goodies enabling 
>> you to really do a number on scanning that document or book and 
>> making it as good as possible. It's for more serious occasions where 
>> JAWS acquire image OCR capability is for the casual user who wants to 
>> check mail or quickly read a book etc. You could of course acquire 
>> the text of an image then copy and paste it out of the results viewer 
>> into word pad or something similar and there's your editing 
>> capability. HJ Pad for that matter.
>>
>>
>> So said, right now it doesn't sound like VFO is interested in 
>> discontinuing Open Book in favor of using that OCR which is included 
>> in JAWS.
>>
>>
>> Cheers:
>> Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy 
>> Associates "We make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community - 
>> http://valiantGalaxy.com";
>>
>> <Sent with Thunderbird 52.1.0 portable>
>>
>> On 8/31/2017 5:58 PM, Blackwell, Clifford wrote:
>>> Does anyone know if with the inclusion of the scanning features in 
>>> JAWS 2018 if VFO is intending to end support or development of Open 
>>> Book?  It has been quite a while since there were any 
>>> updates/improvements to Open Book and this new feature set would 
>>> seem to indicate a lack of interest in maintaining Open Book as a 
>>> separate product line.
>>>
>>> If that is the case, does anyone know what OCR programs are being 
>>> used in JAWS 2018 to perform the recognition and will there be ways 
>>> to "tweek" the performance as there is in Open Book?
>>>
>>> It's an interesting release and future developments will be 
>>> interesting.
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