Hi, All I can say is that it is more vital to collaborate. As for another screen reader you speak of, talk to me privately, as it concerns matters way beyond this forum. All I can say is that I was involved in it. Cheers, Joseph
-----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 9:21 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Two Fixes For Problems, A Comment Hi Joseph. Thanks for this explanation. I don't remember when I used it last, but I just opened calculator and can confirm that results are not being spoken by JAWS 18 in my Windows 10 1709, either. Very annoying. This doesn't appear to be a problem for NVDA, though. -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee Sent: January 12, 2018 12:09 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Two Fixes For Problems, A Comment Hi, Calculator bug: assuming that you're running latest version of Calculator app and this didn't occur before, chances are that something other than JAWS is to blame. I have an idea as to what's going on behind the scenes, but until I get a confirmation from others, I'll leave all possibilities open. And if my guess is correct, then another call to VFO might be in order (rather, another reminder). Technical: there is a UI Automation event Calculator used to fire (note the words "used to") until recently. This has changed in recent releases: instead of an event JAWS used to rely on, Calculator fires a different UIA event to convey results and other announcements to you. In this case, I recommend filing a feedback about Calculator with Microsoft so other screen reader users can upvote. Cheers, Joseph -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 8:37 AM To: jaws user's list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Two Fixes For Problems, A Comment I realized after I sent the below message that the typing echo in the calculator should, emphasis, normally be set to none, as it indeed was. But that assumes that JAWS is always speaking the display as it updates, which mine now is not. So until JAWS finds its voice, smile, I'll leave the typing echo as it is now so that I can hear what I type. Rebecca I'm using Windows 10, the 1709 Fall Creator's update, with version 2018 of JAWS. The Windows 10 calculator was not speaking at all. The only way to confirm what I'd typed was to turn the numlock off and read the current line, or to tab and then shift tab back and JAWS would read the display. Both doable, but annoying. I opened Quick Settings and arrowed through the list, just to see if there might be something I could change. There was. Smile. I've never touched this but somehow, the typing echo was set to none. It's on character everywhere else. Now it's set to character in the calculator as well and what I type is spoken. Alas, JAWS still does not speak the result when I press the enter key, so that I still have to tab and shift tab back to have the amount read, or I have to turn the numlock off and read the current line. But the aggravation level has been considerably reduced. Smile. The second problem was brought up by someone on the list, Adrian I think. If I alt-tab away from a page and then come back, JAWS will not always keep my place on the page. It would be lovely if it could remember automatically, but if I remember to insert a temporary place marker, control-windows key-k before I alt-tab away, all I have to do is press k when I come back and JAWS will return to where I'd been reading. I think the documentation says that the temporary place marker will stay until the page changes, so I assume that if the page updates while I'm away from it, the place marker will be lost. Usually though, I'm only pasting material into Word. In this case I have to remember to insert that place marker before I leave. The temporary place marker I set at the beginning of the copy process does not work as a placeholder after the material has been copied. HTH. Rebecca A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it isn't open. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
